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[panther-state]

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I agree Morgan will be good. Not sure why he played 12 mins in the first and 5 in the second. It's also curious that Friedman didn't play even though UWM had a couple of "true" post players.

Friedman played some in the first. Didn't record any stats I believe but he played. Pretty sure I saw him. Not sure who else it would've been going in for Tuttle/Rank

[williebat]

All of that said, we should be able to beat teams like Milwaukee/Ohio/Mason, etc more often than not. Despite the obvious lack of quality post depth, we still have some VERY GOOD players. Deon, Wes, Jeremy, Tuttle...these are good players and, with all due respect to our opponents, our talent should be able to overcome some of our shortcomings and beat these teams.

Giving up 17-0 runs, and giving up 50+ points in a half to teams like this? C'mon...

That's what's most disappointing.

I agree. I like our talent. Jake does not panic but I do question his second half lineup choices. Seems odd at best. Also someone needs to light a fire. If wes would have turned it up during our horrific scoring drought that may have lit a fire? He did turn it up but way to late. The entire team Needs to play hard the whole game.
Of course playing well seems to get rewarded with bench time in second half.

[run&blade]

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Run and Blade's head just exploded.

6' 8" 230lbs? Yes but can he shoot the 3?

Indian Hills currently has a seven footer, a 6' 10", and a 6' 8" on there roster. I am sure UNI has no interest in them either.

[UNIPNTHR]

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Friedman played some in the first. Didn't record any stats I believe but he played. Pretty sure I saw him. Not sure who else it would've been going in for Tuttle/Rank

Yep, Friedman played 5 minutes and his only stat was a Personal Foul

The entire team Needs to play hard the whole game. Of course playing well seems to get rewarded with bench time in second half.

Foul trouble for Tuttle. That's certainly one type of "hard play" that gets rewarded with bench time.

[williebat]

Yep, Friedman played 5 minutes and his only stat was a Personal Foul



Foul trouble for Tuttle. That's certainly one type of "hard play" that gets rewarded with bench time.

I was thinking buss and Morgan. They were not amazing but I thought they had a decent first half. Only to see limited minutes in the second half.

When got beat 22-0 at one point. That is huge huge concern for future. Embarrassing.

[BCPanther]

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6' 8" 230lbs? Yes but can he shoot the 3?

Indian Hills currently has a seven footer, a 6' 10", and a 6' 8" on there roster. I am sure UNI has no interest in them either.

I am sure we don't. It takes a scholarship to recruit a player. We are bringing in our PG of the future next year and a kid that started in the ACC, I think we're all right.

You do realize that every big man we have had in the past 13 years, sans Coleman and Gruber, has had the three as part of their game. At this level, you have to be able to stretch the floor with your 4 to open up the paint for your, usually undersized, 5.

[run&blade]

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I am sure we don't. It takes a scholarship to recruit a player. We are bringing in our PG of the future next year and a kid that started in the ACC, I think we're all right.

You do realize that every big man we have had in the past 13 years, sans Coleman and Gruber, has had the three as part of their game. At this level, you have to be able to stretch the floor with your 4 to open up the paint for your, usually undersized, 5.

More guards.


Please define "all right". Things haven't been "all right" since O'Rear went down in my opinion.

[ceaser150]

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I am sure we don't. It takes a scholarship to recruit a player. We are bringing in our PG of the future next year and a kid that started in the ACC, I think we're all right.

You do realize that every big man we have had in the past 13 years, sans Coleman and Gruber, has had the three as part of their game. At this level, you have to be able to stretch the floor with your 4 to open up the paint for your, usually undersized, 5.

I wonder if they're trying to send a message to Singleton that he has no future here and are hoping he transfers. He has been using up a scholarship for almost 3 years and has not played any significant minutes. And when they were grasping at straws yesterday, they turned to Martino, the walk-on instead of Singleton, who I think may have been more effective in that situation.

[Mudrafan]

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We get out-rebounded on a nightly basis as we recruit soft big men & do not develop them. Our bigs stand on the perimeter & clank 3-pt shots or they sit on the bench. Meanwhile, we over-recruit guards...many of which are either too undersized, one dimensional or simply can't shoot straight. Outrebounded last night, no inside play & 5-26 from the 3-pt line. This will not work & has not to any real degree since the bearded charmer went down to injury a few years ago.

[unipanthers8907]

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I wonder if they're trying to send a message to Singleton that he has no future here and are hoping he transfers. He has been using up a scholarship for almost 3 years and has not played any significant minutes. And when they were grasping at straws yesterday, they turned to Martino, the walk-on instead of Singleton, who I think may have been more effective in that situation.

I'm wondering the same thing, which is too bad because I think we could utilize Marv more than we do. He can rebound - that's a positive right there. He played decent in the few games he played last year. Against Creighton I think he played approx. 10 minutes, played solid defense, grabbed some rebounds, and scored like 3-4 points. I see no reason why he can't be used that way this season.

I expected UNI to be 17-13 this year and compete for third or fourth place. I expected a down year by our recent standards. I think 17 wins and a third or fourth place finish is still possible, but I don't want that to become the norm. We need a true post player in the worst way. Even if he's undersized like O'Rear, just give me someone who can play 20-25 minutes a night, rebound and play tough defense in the post, and get 3-4 buckets and a few free throws a game.

Friedman looks lost. I want to have faith that he can improve and develop into a decent big man, but our recent track record isn't great.

Sorry to be a debbie downer, that loss last night was very frustrating.

[UNIhoops]

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Yes, Tiby would have highly considered UNI. His sister was a student at UNI at the time as well. I believe we had Tuttle coming off a big year and Olivier coming in at the time so we didn't take interest. Tiby played in the same conference with Friedman and doubled his stats in high school.

UNI was inches away from having a team right now that could have had wisconsin's starting guard. Uthoff from Iowa and a three time All American. Was Gibbs also interested in UNI? You add Tuttle and a couple of the other starters to that team and good things would be happening. (I understand some players wouldn't be on the roster because of these players)

We have missed out big time on post players recruits. Stout and Egleseder because of their height and weight was the key to all the tourney teams. Look what happened to Coleman when the big guy left. 7 footers we can't always find but I'm guessing we can find a Stout every other year some place in the country.

[Kyle]

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Yep, UNI has had some back luck on the recruiting front.

Imagine this team:

Starting Five:
Deon
Gasser
Washpun
McDermott
Tuttle

Bench:
Morgan
Bohannon
Tiby
Rank
Buss

[UNIChippewa]

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So, I can't stand the McDermott's more than anyone else for how it all went down and awry with Dougie Fresh, and it is tempting to play the "what if?" game, as I've done it more than a few times myself on this board...but our roster is what it is. I haven't had a chance to see any games so far this year due to lack of access and my schedule, but what is the team's biggest weakness right now? Can it be improved on as the season goes on? Is our streak of 20+ victories at-risk?

[Hail Our Panthers]

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Not knowing what the scholarship situation would have been, I'm guessing that if we had McD we would have also landed Gibbs. Not that would have mattered this year, he would never have received that medical redshirt without the Creighton voodoo magic.

[Kyle]

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I'm glad we didn't land Gibbs. He's an overrated punk.