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  • Re: Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

    Originally posted by anderjao View Post
    On a side note: Can someone please get our pep crew to stop chanting "shake weight"? It wasn't funny three years ago, it's less funny now, and it doesn't do anything to distract the opposing team. I like energy coming from the crowd, but there are many better ways to channel it.
    Agreed. And I realize I'm probably preaching to the choir on this one, but I thought the student section was a disappointment yesterday. The overall crowd turnout was nice, but the student section was half full of students and the other half was general admission fans filling the seats. On top of that, when VCU shot free throws, that may have been the quietest the McLeod was all day.

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    • Re: Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

      Originally posted by unipanthers8907 View Post
      Agreed. And I realize I'm probably preaching to the choir on this one, but I thought the student section was a disappointment yesterday. The overall crowd turnout was nice, but the student section was half full of students and the other half was general admission fans filling the seats. On top of that, when VCU shot free throws, that may have been the quietest the McLeod was all day.
      There should be class where school spirit and team support is taught. Iowa State can create Hilton Magic; so i know it's not an Iowa thing, weather, too many other activities, finals or whatever other excuse you can think of.

      Same old story!

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      • Re: Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

        Originally posted by DownGoesKansas View Post
        WHy Rank over him? I don't see how you dont play him more. Doesn't seem fair to Marvin or the team to contribute every time you have a chance and then not get any more chances.
        It's not about Rank over Marvin. Jake said on the post game, Marvin is playing the 3, so he's competing with Morgan/Bohannon.

        Yesterday, it looked like it was Rank vs Marvin because Rank sat and Marvin played, but in reality it was just because VCU played 4 guards. Jake wanted to matchup guard on guard, which required us to go deeper into the backcourt bench and sit some of our front court guys. This strategy obviously paid big dividends.

        Jake also said a big reason why Marvin is behind Morgan/Bohannon in the lineup is because he played power forward his whole life and is making the adjustment to being a small forward/shooting guard. The two positions are very different. One requires a jumpshot, good ball handling, and quick lateral speed. The other requires brute strength, power, and one dribble pivot moves. Marvin is working hard to develop the skills, but is still behind Morgan and Bohannon in many of these areas.

        So while a lot of us are hopping to see much more Marvin in the future, I'm not sure it's going to happen unless we see more opponents utilize 4 guards for extended periods of the game.
        Originally posted by TH1974
        This guy was all-UNI, and wanted to show it by pretending to play a non-existant musical instrument in public.

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        • Re: Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

          I just don't see Marvin being successful as a 3. He is a power player. If we have been waiting for Marvin to be a jumpshooter with quick lateral speed, then I understand why he hasn't played up to now.
          "My role is to lead, plain and simple. . . .I with the help of my staff and our administration, we will lead." --Ben Jacobson

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          • Re: Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

            I have been in the Marvin camp for the last year and a half. If the coaching staff only wanted to play him at the 3 and realized he needed significant skill development, then they should have considered a red shirt instead of wasting his first two years.

            I am hopeful that Jake's comments in the post game were more reflective of what he was thinking early in the year rather than going forward. Marvin's performance demands that he be given more opportuntiies.

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            • Re: Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

              I do NOT believe starting is inconsequential (as you all know ), but I do think that your position number for the most part is. Lots of teams play 4 guard lineups, or 3 forward lineups. We basically play with no offensive "5". Luke was a 6'5" "center" on our team. Marv has a body like Luke with a nose for the ball, but he can shoot and handle the ball better than Luke which makes him anything from a 3 to a 5 IMO. If he's competing with Bo (who is a flat out 2 guard and nothing else), then...what??

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              • Originally posted by anderjao View Post
                On a side note: Can someone please get our pep crew to stop chanting "shake weight"? It wasn't funny three years ago, it's less funny now, and it doesn't do anything to distract the opposing team. I like energy coming from the crowd, but there are many better ways to channel it.
                I've been saying the same thing ever since it started a few years ago. It's a classless, uninteresting, totally not-creative chant that resembles junior high/middle school behavior. Not sure how the heck to stop it other than coach saying something to them.


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                • Re: Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

                  Originally posted by domedays View Post
                  I just don't see Marvin being successful as a 3. He is a power player. If we have been waiting for Marvin to be a jumpshooter with quick lateral speed, then I understand why he hasn't played up to now.
                  My guess is the staff and Marvin decided early in his career to play him as a 3. This was probably a result of watching his skill set in practice along with the fact he is a bit short for the power forward position.

                  The good news is coach Jake said (despite his lack of playing time ) he's in the gym taking jumpshots before and after almost every practice. Marvin may not see a ton of minutes this year, but when he does get his shot, he will be ready to play. Every team needs players with this type of mental toughness.

                  Had Buss not broken his arm, Singleton probably would have taken a RS year.
                  Originally posted by TH1974
                  This guy was all-UNI, and wanted to show it by pretending to play a non-existant musical instrument in public.

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                  • Re: Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

                    Originally posted by Kyle View Post
                    My guess is the staff and Marvin decided early in his career to play him as a 3. This was probably a result of watching his skill set in practice along with the fact he is a bit short for the power forward position.

                    The good news is coach Jake said (despite his lack of playing time ) he's in the gym taking jumpshots before and after almost every practice. Marvin may not see a ton of minutes this year, but when he does get his shot, he will be ready to play. Every team needs players with this type of mental toughness.

                    Had Buss not broken his arm, Singleton probably would have taken a RS year.
                    The reason he didnt redshirt was because Pehl had stress fractures in both feet and Olivier also broke his foot so he was forced to play the backup 5 at the beginning of the season. In hindsight it was a bad choice to do it because we know how those two ended up but that was why he didnt redshirt. Buss wasnt going to play at all that season whether he broke his arm or not.

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                    • Re: Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

                      During the game, ESPN obviously associated VCU with "Havoc." But they also called UNI "the process" or something like that. Anyone know what that's about or how long it's been happening?

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                      • Re: Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

                        Glad to see that even with no Iowa or Iowa State FB/BB/Wrestling going on Saturday, our AFTERNOON game got a half of a column on the next-to-last page of the Gazette sports section Sunday. More column inches & photos about the UI/ISU Friday game on Sunday than what we garnered!

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                        • Re: Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

                          VCU has HAVOC written on the back of their warm-up tops. I suppose Adams was just looking for a term to describe UNI.
                          "My role is to lead, plain and simple. . . .I with the help of my staff and our administration, we will lead." --Ben Jacobson

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                          • Re: Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

                            Marvin is much more of a power forward than Rank is. Rank seems to be a small forward. I agree with the O'Rear comparison as far as physicality and toughness goes. And I think Marvin's talent level is greater than Lucas's. I would love to see him play more.
                            I think Chip struggles with some of the big bodies down low, and why wouldn't he? He's just not big enough. Marvin has shown his ability down low. Is he really playing the 3 spot? That just doesn't sound right to me.

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                              I am not sure Marvin has more talent that O'Rear, Lucas had more talent that really showed, he knew his role, which was be a 6 point 6 rebound guy of the bench, that played solid defense, and put himself in the right spot. I would love to see Marvin have that role for us, and I do agree that Marvin is as much a 4 as Chip, although Chip has always guarded the post well.

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                              • Re: Up Next: Virginia Commonwealth

                                We really don't have a sample size big enough to assess Marvin or make comparisons to O'Rear.

                                He played well on Saturday but I think it's a knee jerk reaction to assume he is ready to be given big time minutes.
                                Originally posted by TH1974
                                This guy was all-UNI, and wanted to show it by pretending to play a non-existant musical instrument in public.

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