Mvc coach of the year

[WU You]

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In fairness, the UNI players haven't accomplished as much as the WSU guys have. That level of frustration wouldn't be there for UNI. Cotton continually gets overlooked and Baker and FVV took up for him.

They didn't even say anything specific. Small Town beat writers trying to make a name for themselves by creating controversy.

[pantherfan4ever]

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MVC Tournament: The only time you get to sit next to a grown man with his family present throw the "Shocker" sign all year and have it considered 'normal'! Can't wait!

Not just grown men.... Watched a lot of their games this year and most of the kids do it too! I find it disturbing.

[BCPanther]

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In fairness, the UNI players haven't accomplished as much as the WSU guys have. That level of frustration wouldn't be there for UNI. Cotton continually gets overlooked and Baker and FVV took up for him.

They didn't even say anything specific. Small Town beat writers trying to make a name for themselves by creating controversy.

Yeah, and UNI had no one else named to either all conference team while the team that finished 7 games back had 2 first team guys and no one named to the all defense team after being in the top 5 nationally, while the team that finished 5 games back had two. UNI's response? We're about winning games.

Wichita's response comes off classless, shallow, petty, and insecure. Just like your head coach.

[pantherfan4ever]

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In fairness, the UNI players haven't accomplished as much as the WSU guys have. That level of frustration wouldn't be there for UNI. Cotton continually gets overlooked and Baker and FVV took up for him.

They didn't even say anything specific. Small Town beat writers trying to make a name for themselves by creating controversy.

so the more "accomplished" one is, makes it more appropriate? Nope. Might mean they feel more frustrated or slighted, but doesn't mean you say it that way on TV. They can say what they want. I'm just glad our guys don't.

[DrewDog]

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Not according to the voters who gave Tuttle 38 of the possible 47 first place votes.

It was actually 38 out of 44 possible first place votes since 4 voters were not allowed to vote for Tuttle since they cover the Panthers.

[WU You]

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Yeah, and UNI had no one else named to either all conference team while the team that finished 7 games back had 2 first team guys and no one named to the all defense team after being in the top 5 nationally, while the team that finished 5 games back had two. UNI's response? We're about winning games.

Wichita's response comes off classless, shallow, petty, and insecure. Just like your head coach.

Who do you believe should have been on the first team that wasn't for UNI? Washpun? The problem for UNI is that you have Tuttle and a bunch of really good players. But none of those "really good players" are going to be considered top 5 and certainly not going to beat out Cotton or Balentine. I think UNI got the awards it deserved - Tuttle was clearly POY and I have no beef over Jacobson get COY (could make an argument for Marshall and others but Jacobson deserves the award for the year you've had.)

As far as the "response", we're talking about one comment from Baker, a 21 year old kid. It wasn't specific, it was derogatory, it wasn't directed at anyone in particular.

That being said, I think I speak for most all WSU fans when I say I respect your program and the way you go about your business. Very easy to like you guys. Best of luck the rest of the way...I'll be rooting for you like a madman in the Big Dance. Go Valley!

[jegbomb52]

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to be honest with you I was totally okay with the young mans comments. that speaks miles about his loyalty to his coach, that is a mutual respect we see in some of our programs and I like it.

[Panther-Sheik]

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I actually wouldn't put another UNI player on the 1st team and agree 100% that it is pretty stupid that E'ville gets 2 guys on. They run an offense that is geared toward individual accolades but sacrifices team production year after year. Put one or the other on the team, but not 2 players from the same mediocre 5th place team. It makes the conference look even dumber and more small time to do that. Time for writers and voters to quit rewarding that crap style that Marty promotes.

Cotton is a stud. I think he fell victim to not wanting to vote 3 guys from the same team onto the 1st team and also that he plays on a very good TEAM...similar to what happens to UNI players. He has the ability to be "the man" but sacrifices that for the good of the team. The anti-Evansville formula. But, which would you rather root for?

[WU You]

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I actually wouldn't put another UNI player on the 1st team and agree 100% that it is pretty stupid that E'ville gets 2 guys on. They run an offense that is geared toward individual accolades but sacrifices team production year after year. Put one or the other on the team, but not 2 players from the same mediocre 5th place team. It makes the conference look even dumber and more small time to do that. Time for writers and voters to quit rewarding that crap style that Marty promotes.

Cotton is a stud. I think he fell victim to not wanting to vote 3 guys from the same team onto the 1st team and also that he plays on a very good TEAM...similar to what happens to UNI players. He has the ability to be "the man" but sacrifices that for the good of the team. The anti-Evansville formula. But, which would you rather root for?

Couldn't agree with you more. Good luck today Panthers! Here's to hoping for a classic showdown on Sunday between two highly ranked teams.

[GonzoCat]

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Man I'm sure WSU has some jerk fans like all schools, but the ones who have visited this board have been a total class act. Wish I could say the same for some of our own posters.

['70 Grad]

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Ditto, esp. the first part!

[ProwlingPanther]

No player besides Tuttle for UNI deserved 1st Team accolades. I am shocked Morgan didn't make all defense. Jake deserved Coach of the Year but you couldn't argue against Marshall getting it either. I think the choice of words made by Baker and Vanvleet were poor decisions. I am sure they would alter their statements if given the chance. I think they are a classy team led by a fiery, passionate, yet classy coach. Remember what they did for Odom last year.

[95UNIGRAD]

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Man I'm sure WSU has some jerk fans like all schools, but the ones who have visited this board have been a total class act. Wish I could say the same for some of our own posters.

Very true...it's an odd thing for me - usually I can't stand a team based on their fans (some Iowa and ISU supporters, for example), but the team doesn't bother me. Conversely, after the press conference comments, I found myself rooting hard for our team to shut Baker and Van Vleet up on Sunday (assuming we both get there), but their fans have been nothing but complimentary and respectful in any interaction I've had with them or anything I've read on a message board. Since I don't personally know those players, I'm going to assume it was a moment of letting their guard down for a minute and voicing something they shouldn't have and not hold it against them.

[vbfan19]

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Even if we beat Evansville we wouldn't be the 1 seed.

That is true. Though there hadn't been any mention of tournament seeding in the discussion until now, and the conference designated all teams that are tied with the best conference record as "champion", regardless of any tiebreakers.