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    I haven't been able to say anything about the game until now, too heartbroken for this group of exceptional young men. But I have to wonder if anyone else had this experience.

    When Jeremy and Wes were sprinting down court with that overthrown ball and the Louisville defender was out in front of Jeremy I was yelling at him to pass the ball to Wes, which I always do with a two on one fast break. I know some disagree and say take it strong to the basket, but imo a pass to a wide open man is a better percentage then going up against a defender.

    Anywho when Jeremy made that beautiful behind the back pass to Wes I lept up and saw the rest of the game flash before my eyes. Wes flys in for a monster dunk. The crowd erupts. Louisville calls time out. We are down four and 3/4 of the way to a comeback win. The Cards are rattled and the Panthers are supremely confident having just seen the play of the game, the one that plays over and over on sportscenter. The crowd is behind UNI the rest of the way. We hit 3's on our next two possessions, go on to outscore them 12-4 the rest the way and win by 4. I swear I saw it all in the split second before the play ended in disaster. Instead they make the defensive play of the game then go down and while our guys are wondering what happened hit an alley oop for perhaps the offensive play of the game, and it's pretty much all she wrote.

    My initial reaction was the Louisville player had to have fouled Wes. I've watched the play at least 25 times in slow motion trying to see what went wrong, and I'm still not entirely sure. Best I can tell Wes went up with the ball in both hands, the defender did not foul, he hit the ball or Wes' left hand and the ball went out of Wes control although his right hand never left it and his left hand got back on just in time to two handed slam the ball into the backboard.

    The problem started because Wes got the ball about 3-4 feet inside the free throw line and took two more running steps (long) before going up. By that time he was almost directly under the basket. In slow motion it looks like he did a jump stop and then a second jump up to dunk it. In regular speed it doesn't look like that, there was no actual stop, but it's clear he got too far in before jumping. He could/should have jumped as soon as he caught the ball if not before, his momentum would have carried him to the rim and nobody could have caught him from behind.

    I'm not blaming Wes, I know I'm going to get hammered by some people for seeming to. I'm not saying anyone else on the team could have made that play or we have a right to expect anyone to, but Wes was born to make that play. I'm just saying what happened and how it played out in my minds eye.

    It takes a lot of plays to go wrong for this team to lose a game, and a lot of plays to go right for the opponent. But that's the one that's going to haunt me for awhile.
    GO PANTHERS!

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    Re: What could have been

    I think I saw the exact same thing as that play unfolded, thinking that this would be the play that turned the momentum our way, that fired up the crowd and the guys and that stuck a knife into the heart of Louisville, leaving them struggling to figure out what happened.
    Of course no one blames Wes, or Jeremy, or any of the guys. In the moment it's completely different. But oh, to think what might have been...this week we'd be hearing and seeing our Panthers all over the sporting news world!

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    • #3
      Re: What could have been

      Originally posted by GonzoCat View Post

      Anywho when Jeremy made that beautiful behind the back pass to Wes I lept up and saw the rest of the game flash before my eyes. Wes flys in for a monster dunk. The crowd erupts. Louisville calls time out. We are down four and 3/4 of the way to a comeback win. The Cards are rattled and the Panthers are supremely confident having just seen the play of the game, the one that plays over and over on sportscenter. The crowd is behind UNI the rest of the way. We hit 3's on our next two possessions, go on to outscore them 12-4 the rest the way and win by 4. I swear I saw it all in the split second before the play ended in disaster. Instead they make the defensive play of the game then go down and while our guys are wondering what happened hit an alley oop for perhaps the offensive play of the game, and it's pretty much all she wrote.

      Maybe we will all wake up tomorrow and that is what will have happened.

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      • #4
        Re: What could have been

        Yep. Every once in a while you can boil a game down to one play and that was definitely the case against Louisville. If Wes throws down a monster dunk, we carry the momentum all the way into the S16.

        Oh well. Sh!t happens.
        Originally posted by TH1974
        This guy was all-UNI, and wanted to show it by pretending to play a non-existant musical instrument in public.

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        • #5
          Re: What could have been

          Thanks for the description. Being there, I could only see it once, and wondered what happened. Thought there had to have been a foul. Yes, it really could have put the pressure on them - that and/or a couple of late threes.

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          • #6
            Re: What could have been

            As that play was unfolding I did the same thing. I jumped out of my chair higher than I have ever jumped and thought... this is it!! It's going to happen. We are going to do it just like in the MVC Championship game. When it went wrong, that's when my eyes got watery and I knew we were going to have to say goodbye to those seniors and this team. When Seth left the court... not gonna lie, his tears brought my tears. My son went to bed that night without tears. .. but not until he hugged me for a long time without saying a word. He wouldn't let go. Broke my heart.
            "...the Northern Iowa men's basketball team reached the ultimate highs before hitting a devastating low. Unexpected success, followed by unimaginable failure. And they owned it -- all of it -- for the world to see. Like men. Like leaders. Like champions -- in a way no tournament bracket could ever define."

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            • #7
              Re: What could have been

              Hawk fan that pulls for all Iowa schools but felt worse about UNI losing this year than Iowa. My brother who is also a Hawk fan called today and said the same thing.

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              • #8
                Re: What could have been

                That play was supposed to be the turning point in the game. I just know it was. As it was beginning, I let out the most dramatic and hopeful scream of "YES", but then I suddenly let out a "NO" as though my life had just been taken from me. It's amazing how supporting a sports team can affect you so much. Even though it didn't end the way I wanted, I'd do it all over again. Already looking forward to the wild journey of next season.

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                • #9
                  Re: What could have been

                  A resounding agree to that feeling and view. I could not believe it either. And after rewatching the game 5 times the last 36 hours..I've come to the opinion the refs did us no favors, Rozier and Snider couldn't miss, we were cold. Harrell had the most quiet of 14 points I think I've ever seen, outside his two monster jams, he got 10 points out of nowhere it seemed, same for Blackshear.

                  As for Harrell, after watching the game 5 times...he had 3 fouls in the first half. Only actually given one. In fact on the 2 he wasn't called for it...he was the only one around who could have been called for it. Phantom fouls are haunting. That was a game changer. The blatant over and back not called are just baffling. That second half felt like we were 20 ft under ground trying to dig out while a cement truck kept piling it on..impossible to overcome. I still think had Harrell received those fouls, also would have been a big changer. Siiiigh. What a year.

                  Final 4 is in houston next year, down the road from me. I went the last time it was in Houston...I expect UNI to be there this time!

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                  • #10
                    Re: What could have been

                    Originally posted by Purrrrrfect View Post
                    A resounding agree to that feeling and view. I could not believe it either. And after rewatching the game 5 times the last 36 hours..I've come to the opinion the refs did us no favors, Rozier and Snider couldn't miss, we were cold. Harrell had the most quiet of 14 points I think I've ever seen, outside his two monster jams, he got 10 points out of nowhere it seemed, same for Blackshear.

                    As for Harrell, after watching the game 5 times...he had 3 fouls in the first half. Only actually given one. In fact on the 2 he wasn't called for it...he was the only one around who could have been called for it. Phantom fouls are haunting. That was a game changer. The blatant over and back not called are just baffling. That second half felt like we were 20 ft under ground trying to dig out while a cement truck kept piling it on..impossible to overcome. I still think had Harrell received those fouls, also would have been a big changer. Siiiigh. What a year.

                    Final 4 is in houston next year, down the road from me. I went the last time it was in Houston...I expect UNI to be there this time!

                    Agree on the fouls. When he got called for his first, I told my wife he was in foul trouble. She asked how many he had and I said 3. Then the announcer said 1. Huh? They would have been a very different team if he was in foul trouble.

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                    • #11
                      Re: What could have been

                      Thanks for the description of that play....I too jumped out of my chair as it was about to happen......and next thing I know is the ball is going the other way...I think the announcer said something about a great hustle play by the Louisville defender....and then a big dunk that felt like a big punch right in the gut! I couldn't believe there wasn't a foul on the play and I never saw a replay. I'd been wondering what actually happened.

                      The disappointment of that loss still is eating at me today........listening to sports radio and knowing that it could be our guys and coaches they are interviewing this week....

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                      • #12
                        Re: What could have been

                        I too saw the same thing on wes and jeremy's 2 on 1. watching the replay i thought it was a foul. Refs did not do us one favor all game. Im pretty sure Rick Pitino had a little bit to do w/ that. the over and back no call though, was the correct call. the ball never crossed over. but that said, a lot of fouls were not called on louisville. and how harrell only had 1 foul at that moment we all thought he had 3?? you have to be kidding me. The big missed foul i recall was on a rebound, and it was probably harrell who was way over the back. The refs were absolutely terrible!

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                        • #13
                          Re: What could have been

                          I was in Louville this week and it was painful to hear them on sports talk shows talk about living the high life in Syracuse.

                          That and they say it's 90% Kentucky and 10% Cardinal.

                          They were pretty respectful of UNI. But, it's easy to pat someone on the head when you win.

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                          • #14
                            Re: What could have been

                            A layup and dunk are both worth 2 points. Morgan's layup had the potential for a 3 point play and was the easier play. I cringed when he dumped it off and the game was essentially over less than 10 seconds later. It's unfortunate how big of a momentum changer that 1 play was.

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                            • #15
                              Re: What could have been

                              And Louisville shoots 25% from 3 vs NC State and wins. Smh.
                              Oh what could have been!

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