*2015-16 CBB non-UNI games*

[Panther100]

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All true except the resume part. That's up for debate. One better win (for now, UNC isn't doing great, and the Utah win looks better for WSU after today). The CSU home loss is pretty bad. All of WSUs losses have been road/neutral to top 75 or so teams. Including 3 or 4 losses with lots of injuries.

That said, WSU has very very little margin for error now. Gotta win the next 2 then probably at least 17-1 in the Valley. It's too bad we couldn't pull this one out. Lots of mistakes but hard to overcome getting outscored at the line by 16 ...

It's becoming a one bid league. 8-9 losses is the limit for an at large to the Big Dance.

[Stickboy46]

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It's becoming a one bid league. 8-9 losses is the limit for an at large to the Big Dance.

Sadly, I agree with this.

[Khan4Cats]

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All true except the resume part. That's up for debate. One better win (for now, UNC isn't doing great, and the Utah win looks better for WSU after today). The CSU home loss is pretty bad. All of WSUs losses have been road/neutral to top 75 or so teams. Including 3 or 4 losses with lots of injuries.

That said, WSU has very very little margin for error now. Gotta win the next 2 then probably at least 17-1 in the Valley. It's too bad we couldn't pull this one out. Lots of mistakes but hard to overcome getting outscored at the line by 16 ...

Our resume just improved markedly. Still have a potential date with Oklahoma

[06panther10]

The great thing about our resume is that our wins far outweigh our losses.

[run&blade]

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Beat Oklahoma and their resume will look very good by the end of the year.

Assuming a top two finish in the valley.

[BCPanther]

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We have a margin for error, even if we don't beat OU.

13 league wins and we should be dancing, assuming we don't go 0 for Hawaii.

[Panther100]

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Our margin for at large error is still about 9 losses due to the bottom half of the league not helping SOS or RPI. We probably need at least 14-4 in regular season conference play and two out of three in St.Louis/Hawaii to equal 25-9 on Selection Sunday. No doubt the UNC/ISU wins carry a lot of water though.

[Stickboy46]

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Our resume just improved markedly. Still have a potential date with Oklahoma

Yup, great win for you guys. Helps the whole valley out.

Ironically, your New Mexico loss just got worse as they lost to Rice at home.. WSUs win vs Utah looks better because of their win at Duke. Moral of the story? I don't envy who has to figure out what is a good win or a bad loss come March. I have no idea what to expect this year. I think every team in the Valley needs to assume they need 17 wins in the valley or win the tournament because it seems extra crazy this year.

[Khan4Cats]

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Yup, great win for you guys. Helps the whole valley out.

Ironically, your New Mexico loss just got worse as they lost to Rice at home.. WSUs win vs Utah looks better because of their win at Duke. The Same St louis that beat WSU just lost at home to Indiana State. Moral of the story? I don't envy who has to figure out what is a good win or a bad loss come March. I have no idea what to expect this year. I think every team in the Valley needs to assume they need 17 wins in the valley or win the tournament because it seems extra crazy this year.

Honestly, its pretty easy. Since we're in the MVC, any win is marginal and any loss is bad. However, Texas beating UNC might be enough to get them in if they finish over .500.

[Panther100]

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Yup, great win for you guys. Helps the whole valley out.

Ironically, your New Mexico loss just got worse as they lost to Rice at home.. WSUs win vs Utah looks better because of their win at Duke. The Same St louis that beat WSU just lost at home to Indiana State. Moral of the story? I don't envy who has to figure out what is a good win or a bad loss come March. I have no idea what to expect this year. I think every team in the Valley needs to assume they need 17 wins in the valley or win the tournament because it seems extra crazy this year.

I thought WSU won at St. Louis this season? Agree about the Selection Sunday part though.

[Stickboy46]

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I thought WSU won at St. Louis this season? Agree about the Selection Sunday part though.

Ignore that.. I'm tired... You are correct, I was thinking Tulsa .... Still think my overall point stands ha

[GonzoCat]

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Honestly, its pretty easy. Since we're in the MVC, any win is marginal and any loss is bad. However, Texas beating UNC might be enough to get them in if they finish over .500.

This is pretty much in line with the selection committees thinking. However, I don't think we need 17 MVC wins for an at large, 13-14 should do it with two wins in the conf. tourney.

[Username]

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The great thing about our resume is that our wins far outweigh our losses.

Yep. Would much rather be 7-3 with these wins, than 8-2 with losses to North Carolina and Iowa State.

['70 Grad]

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Yep. Would much rather be 7-3 with these wins, than 8-2 with losses to North Carolina and Iowa State.

Interesting to argue.

I'm saying its a historic season already.

[Stickboy46]

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This is pretty much in line with the selection committees thinking. However, I don't think we need 17 MVC wins for an at large, 13-14 should do it with two wins in the conf. tourney.

While that may be possible if all 4 to 5 of your losses are to the top MVC teams (though that means you wouldn't have beat either WSU or Evansville). If you split with WSU and Evansville and still have 4 MVC losses, that means you lost two games to teams with RPI > 100 (at least). That combined with your couple bad losses in the non-conf might push your RPI too low to be overruled by the 2 good wins.

I think both UNI and WSU need to win 16 or 17 in conf at least, with the only losses being to the top teams. WSU's only saving grace right now is the fact that they really have no "bad" losses right now. All 5 losses are to RPI Top 60 teams. 3 are well documented with multiple injuries (which has already been stated that they will consider). So lets hope for both our teams sake, that we both go 17-1 in conf, splitting with each other in the regular season and then meet up on Sunday in St. Louis. That's going to be one of the few ways the MVC gets 2 teams in.