for the boozehounds

[PantherChic]

Good call, UNIdadtobe

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[Mudrafan]

Re: for the boozehounds

So if you are a season ticket holder and PSC member, for only $100 you can get the opportunity to buy $5 glasses of beer at games. Probably be very popular.

For the type of crowd they are likely attracting for this...yes..absolutely...it will be a big hit & a nice offering to those that know how to handle it. It is the meathead crowd that cannot afford it that they are likely wanting to steer from

[Mudrafan]

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give me 7,000 annoying full price paying drunks at the McLeod on a Saturday night game vs Bradley vs a 4,000 family driven crowd that is there on $5 tickets. Oh, you think drinking leads to socializing and not watching the game? Watch my 5 year old and 7 year old, and then watch my wife and I chase them around for two hours. I would guess we see approximately 15 minutes of basketball.

Jeg, I'm with you on 99% of things on this board. This one, we'll have to agree to disagree & I'm ok with that.

[Mudrafan]

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In the age of the internet, massive violence on tv and electronic media, and music with all kinds of offensive language uni thinks it needs to worry about offending a family because the guy in front of them is enjoying a beer?

Do the Amish really account for that many ticket sales?

Run, quit telling me and the rest of those that have kids...what we should be ok with.

[Panther AC]

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Keep in mind the Patio is open an hour before game time and there is no seating up there. Members might have a couple of beers before the game, then come down to their regular seats, rather than standing to watch the whole game. I could see this happening especially during weekend games when arriving an hour early isn't as much of an issue as during weeknight games, for most working people.

[run&blade]

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I could take it or leave it but I think it should be available to everyone or nobody. Public university should not decide who gets alcohol based on a person's economic status.

I know everybody does it but I never cared for it.

If families are offended by alcohol too bad, the entire football game day experience is more or less based on it. Take away alcohol and the tailgating lots would be empty and probably a few thousands less in the stands. The school already embraces alcohol in many ways if you want to admit it or not it is true.

[CyCarp]

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I don't think this is a bad idea. It's basically a safe play by the university imo. I'm assuming a big reason they went this way is that it reduces liability of some fans getting out of control, underage fans getting alcohol, etc. I'm sure they'll expand who can get alcohol if this succeeds.

[06panther10]

I could take it or leave it but I think it should be available to everyone or nobody. Public university should not decide who gets alcohol based on a person's economic status.

It is available to everybody. If you don't want to pay $100, then so be it.

"economic status"...LOL

[vbfan19]

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r&b probably also thinks it is unfair that PSC members get to park closer than the general public

[Mudrafan]

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I could take it or leave it but I think it should be available to everyone or nobody. Public university should not decide who gets alcohol based on a person's economic status.

I know everybody does it but I never cared for it.

If families are offended by alcohol too bad, the entire football game day experience is more or less based on it. Take away alcohol and the tailgating lots would be empty and probably a few thousands less in the stands. The school already embraces alcohol in many ways if you want to admit it or not it is true.

you are acting like a child that doesn't get his way. No one has said & no one is taking away tailgating or alcohol in the parking lots. They simply are not opening it up (like 99% of the rest of the universities) for the reasons that have been discussed.

[ubuntuCAT]

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I've long advocated for having alcohol offered at UNI events. But if I'm a season ticket holder and PSC member I probably have some great seats.

Why would I leave my seats empty (still have to pay for them), pay another $100, sit up stairs further away from the court, just to enjoy $5 beers? (probably no good beer options either)

If you are going to limit alcohol sales to a specific area of the arena then sell tickets to that specific area. I don't understand this plan at all really.

Oh and these comments about limiting alcohol sales by "economic status" are hilarious!

[ronfitch]

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My guess is that they are considering phasing it in at this point and this is an easy way get started while working out the bugs.

I really like to see them include a local brewer, such as Single Speed on the Parkade and is in the process of moving into the old Wonder Bread bakery (where I once racked fresh-baked loaves of cinnamon raisin bread as a student at UNI).

The University of Minnesota did this at TCF, but in a round-about way ... but eventually.

- The original UMN Athletic Department plan was to make it available only in TCF premium seating areas;
- The legislature passed a bill (2009) that the governor signed banning all alcohol at TCF *if* it was to be only allowed in the premium seating;
- The UMN president countered by proposing a ban on alcohol at all campus sporting events (Williams Arena, Mariucci did sell ... not sure about the women's hockey arena), which the Regents approved.
- The following year (2010), the legislature passed a bill signed by the governor stating that there could be alcohol sold at TCF but had to include at least 1/3rd of general seating in addition to premium seating;
- UMN president declined to ask the Regents to vote on allowing alcohol under the new law;
- Two years later (2012), the Regents voted to allow sales at the stadium;

First year sales was about $900k, of which UMN got $186k (22%) after taxes but spent $201k to do, operating at a loss of $16k. That loss included one-time startup costs of $30k plus $47k of additional police officers and security. (http://www.startribune.com/first-yea...r-u/199077011/)

At the end of two years of selling at TCF, "university officials found 'no significant increase' in alcohol-related incidents at TCF Bank Stadium, according to a report this week to the Board of Regents. In fact, there were fewer police calls about rowdy or drunken fans in 2013 than in 2010, two years before the on-site beer and wine sales began." (http://www.startribune.com/alcohol-l...ium/245414221/)

In 2014, UMN doubled the number of points of sale to 150 and expanded the time of sale from 60 through halftime to 90 minutes through the third quarter and would expand the lineup, which included beer and wine. Important to note that this was in time for the Vikings to play home games at TCF after the Humphrey Dome was demolished and while a new stadium for the Vikings is under construction.

[GonzoCat]

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I don't have a dog in this fight, but it is interesting how little money UM made off the alcohol sales. A properly run 50-50 raffle could net more money than that. I was at a Friday after work beer/band fest this summer and they were selling them like hotcakes. People were lined up to buy 20-100 of the tickets. They had to have sold 5,000 tickets easy. This was at an event with maybe 1000-1500 in attendance.

[cydave]

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I could take it or leave it but I think it should be available to everyone or nobody. Public university should not decide who gets alcohol based on a person's economic status.

I know everybody does it but I never cared for it.

If families are offended by alcohol too bad, the entire football game day experience is more or less based on it. Take away alcohol and the tailgating lots would be empty and probably a few thousands less in the stands. The school already embraces alcohol in many ways if you want to admit it or not it is true.

Should a public university get to decide who gets the best seats in the stadium/arena based on a person's economic status?

[ronfitch]

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I don't have a dog in this fight, but it is interesting how little money UM made off the alcohol sales. A properly run 50-50 raffle could net more money than that. I was at a Friday after work beer/band fest this summer and they were selling them like hotcakes. People were lined up to buy 20-100 of the tickets. They had to have sold 5,000 tickets easy. This was at an event with maybe 1000-1500 in attendance.

How much did UMN make? I can only find first year numbers, from 2012.