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  • Conference RPI

    What does tonight (SIU and UNI losing) do to the Valley's RPI? I'm kind of like a little kid in that I need it explained to me rather than looking it up.

  • #2
    Well, here's realtimerpi.com at 6:00 AM 2/15:

    Missouri Valley
    Wichita St. 18
    Northern Iowa 24
    Southern Ill. 27
    Creighton 31
    Missouri State 32
    Bradley 59
    Indiana St.183
    Drake 196
    Illinois St. 257
    Evansville 265

    Still 5 teams in the top 32 and 6 teams in the top 59 of the RPI. That bodes well for at-large bids if the season ended today, but we've all got 3 games + St. Louis remaining. Lots of work to do, but it doesn't look as bad today as I would have thought last night. Also, UNI has a TREMENDOUS opportunity to get their RPI back into the teens with a win over Bucknell Saturday. Good stuff kids!
    "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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    • #3
      And here's what kenpom.com has to say about the situation, it might be even better than realtimerpi.com, check this out:

      Wichita St. 20-6 12-4 17
      Northern Iowa 19-6 11-5 23
      Southern Illinois 18-7 11-5 28
      Creighton 17-7 11-5 30
      Missouri St. 17-7 10-6 29
      Bradley 15-9 9-7 53

      Top 5 in the conference in the top 30 in the rpi and top 6 in the conference in the top 53 of the rpi. Losing last night sucks, but it doesn't seem to have had the negative effect I thought it would on the rpi. And now, the Panthers have a chance to get back into the teens in the rpi with a win at home this Saturday over the Nationally Ranked Bucknell Bison. GO PANTHERS!!!
      "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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      • #4
        Why would this have any effect on the conference RPI? If our RPI drops, wouldn't the InSU RPI increase by roughly the same amount? There may be fractional changes in the conference RPI by beating each other up, but the only significant changes come when we play teams outside the conference.

        That's why the BracketBuster games are so important. If the MVC goes 5-0 this weeekend, the conference RPI will jump; if we go 0-5, the conference RPI may drop enough that we may only get 2 teams into the NCAA.

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        • #5
          Actually, the MVC plays ten times on Bracket Buster Saturday. If UNI goes 10-0, I think the MVC jumps over the Big Twelve. If they go anything less than 7-3, the MVC stays the same...less than 5-5, and the MVC might drop lower than the Pac-10...possibly.
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          • #6
            Well...then here's to an 8-2 (or better) day this Saturday! GO VALLEY!!! Now is when I wish Valley Talk was up...because the fans in this conference really do cheer for each other as long as we're playing non-conference teams. I don't think you see that in many other conferences.
            "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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            • #7
              Here's the Conference breakdown from KenPom. The Valley has been about .50 below Big12 and .50 above Pac10 for the last six weeks. The Pac10 is slowly making up ground on us, but I don't think they can catch us this late in the season unless something VERY bad happens on Saturday, such as 0-10.

              I think having a better conference rank than the Pac10 will be huge on selection sunday, since we'll both (hopefully) be fighting for a 4th or 5th team.



              Below is through games of 2/14.

              Rnk Conference Non-Conf W-L Pct Overall RPI
              1 Big Ten Conference 105-26 .802 .5892
              2 Big East Conference 127-43 .747 .5853
              3 Atlantic Coast Conference 116-30 .795 .5804
              4 Southeastern Conference 113-36 .758 .5784
              5 Big XII Conference 102-32 .761 .5618
              6 Missouri Valley Conference 61-22 .735 .5557
              7 Pac 10 Conference 71-31 .696 .5516

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              • #8
                Originally posted by panther2317
                Well...then here's to an 8-2 (or better) day this Saturday! GO VALLEY!!! Now is when I wish Valley Talk was up...because the fans in this conference really do cheer for each other as long as we're playing non-conference teams. I don't think you see that in many other conferences.
                I think the MVC is looking at a 6-4 or 7-3 day. The MVC teams playing at home will be favored (including Evansville hosting UT-Martin), Missouri State at UW Milwaukee is winable by the Bears, but the Panthers haven't lost a home game this season (play Illinois-Chicago at home tonight). Indiana State is at Western Michigan, which has played well as of late. Guess it depends which Indiana State shows up. Drake is at UC Irvine, which has a similar RPI to Drake. Illinois State is at RPI #89 Miami of Ohio.
                "Lot of people talked about Ohio State or Georgetown or Michigan State or whoever, [or] Maryland in our bracket. When the brackets came out, the first team I looked at was Northern Iowa," Kansas Coach Bill Self.

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                • #9
                  Illinois St will have a tough time @ Miami Ohio. They are good on their home floor and have pretty good athletes. They aren't as good as the team that beat us in the BB at their place last year, but they are a solid and well coached team.

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