Do we now lose Jordan?

[jagpanther06]

Koch's not so sure about going to UNI next year, but he doesn't want to play for a school that has to win a conference tourney to make the dance.

[panther2317]

Kids commit to schools (or at least in the world of the revolving door coaching policy - they should) not coaches.

[UNI MadCat]

Ha...I don't mean to come off that way. Maybe I'm just an a-hole and don't realize it. Anyway, they didn't like what they found about his dealings in Ottomwa and that will likely prevent him from being a head coach at UNI.

Like me or hate me, I'm usually right on the money. Sorry if I offend.

Fair enough... I commented just b/c I like details to back up statements... thanks for clarifying!

[UNIAlum95]

Kids commit to schools (or at least in the world of the revolving door coaching policy - they should) not coaches.

The problem is that right now like it or not UNI Basketball = Coach Mac. That is gone now. Until we have continued success there is no link to the school. We don't have history like SIU or Creighton who can get buy with the fact that they will continue to have success after a coach is gone. We've had three great years, with nothing before that, save one year, that we can hang our hats on to say this is why you should come here. These kids see UNI basketball as Coach Mac. You are going to see several kids break their commitments...

PS - I hope I am wrong.

[UNI MadCat]

The other thing is some of our players probly arent fit for the B12. size wise, talent wise, we compete with them when they come to town but how would our players stack up against playing texas, oklahoma, kansas, and the others. probly wouldnt do so hot. some of our guys could play there talent wise but size wise wouldnt stack up so im not terribly worried about a lot of people leaving other then egelseder. most of our players werent heavily recruited by big programs, theyre mid major players and i dont know that a lot of their games would translate to the speed and athletism of the B12.

I was thinking this same thing. Yeah, at UNI (if we look at the just completed seasons' team) we have a group of guys that can play with the big boys. Heck, this season they may have played at or near the top half of the B12, B10, etc. However, to expect them to do that on a regular basis every year at UNI is not likely.

Not living in Iowa (and, in general, not getting into the recruiting hype), I dont know enough about what's going on with these kids and if they have the ability to go elsewhere. Maybe this Barz kid is good enough to move on to ISU. I know that Koch would be very lucky to crack the top 10 on UW's roster next year if he went there so I dont see why he would back out (not saying he wont, but really, it doesn't seem like a smart move). Sounds like there are mixed reviews on how Jordan would do elsewhere.

What I do know is that you can't deny that the player Mac can recruit today is a heckuva a lot more highly touted than the one he could have recruited yesterday. Before we get all worked up about Mac taking all of the recruits, don't you think there is a chance he could look at some of these guys and say, "he could definitely play in the MVC, but couldn't in the B12 game in, game out, season after season"?? I'm honestly curious.

Could this whole class go to ISU and play?

Also, does anyone know how many people he could actually sign at ISU for this next season?

[KaBullseye15]

i dont know about kwazdo and koch but i know kerwin dunham is too small to play B12 bball right now so im not worried about him leaving. ive seen him listed from 6'4-6'6 and 170 lbs. i was 6'0 180 in high school and was a twig, try adding 4-6 inches and 10 less lbs. thats tiny. i think he needs to start adding weight and possibly redshirt next year to add more, he'd get broke in half in the B12 night in and night out.

[GonzoCat]

The other thing is some of our players probly arent fit for the B12. size wise, talent wise, we compete with them when they come to town but how would our players stack up against playing texas, oklahoma, kansas, and the others. probly wouldnt do so hot. some of our guys could play there talent wise but size wise wouldnt stack up so im not terribly worried about a lot of people leaving other then egelseder. most of our players werent heavily recruited by big programs, theyre mid major players and i dont know that a lot of their games would translate to the speed and athletism of the B12.

Wow, haven't we spent the past week plus slamming Packer, Nantz, et al for that line of reasoning? Hasn't the NCAA tourney this year showed that's complete BS?

[KaBullseye15]

Wow, haven't we spent the past week plus slamming Packer, Nantz, et al for that line of reasoning? Hasn't the NCAA tourney this year showed that's complete BS?

im not bashing us its just realistic, the biggest difference between us and them is size. im not sure night in and night out you wanna go against size like we faced against G'town when three of their starters were taller then our tallest player. it makes sense

[JCPanthers]

If Coach Mac still cares about UNI and Coach Jake, he'd tell those 4 recruits that there wouldn't be any schollys for them at ISU..."you committed to UNI and you need to honor that committment.....I can't do that to Jake"

[UNIMIS2001]

If Coach Mac still cares about UNI and Coach Jake, he'd tell those 4 recruits that there wouldn't be any schollys for them at ISU..."you committed to UNI and you need to honor that committment.....I can't do that to Jake"

That won't happen.

[pantherfan4ever]

Mac and Jacobson are close, so I could actually see that happening.

[BCPanther]

Mac and Jake may be friends, but if Mac can get the ones he wants, he will do his best to get them!!

[MPLS-PANTHER]

I think I am more worried about them now not coming to UNI or ISU.

[UNI MadCat]

Mac and Jacobson are close, so I could actually see that happening.

Weren't Farley and Allen close? Its not exactly the same but by that rationale, TA shouldn't have been talking to any of Farley's coaches then, should he?

[UNI MadCat]

I think I am more worried about them now not coming to UNI or ISU.

Agree 100%.