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  • #9 pick overall!

    P O B #9 pick overall! That is a good thing for the Valley! Highest since Bird?

  • #2
    I don't know. What was Xavier McDaniel, Cliff Livingston, and Antoine Carr?
    The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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    • #3
      McDaniel would've been higher, like 4th or 5th.
      "Lot of people talked about Ohio State or Georgetown or Michigan State or whoever, [or] Maryland in our bracket. When the brackets came out, the first team I looked at was Northern Iowa," Kansas Coach Bill Self.

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      • #4
        X-Man wasn't even the highest drafted Valley player that year! Thus far, 13 Valley players have been 1st round picks. 6 (now 7) have been top ten picks.

        MVC 1st Round Picks (going back to 1978):
        1997 Anthony Parker #21
        1988 Hersey Hawkins #6
        1985 Benoit Benjamin #3
        1985 Xavier McDaniel #4
        1985 Steve Harris #19
        1983 Antoine Carr #8
        1982 Cliff Levingston #9
        1982 David Thirdkill #15
        1982 Paul Pressey #20
        1980 Carl Nix #23
        1978 Larry Bird #6
        1978 Roger Phegley #14
        The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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        • #5
          That's awesome for O'Bryant---I think after a year or two of development he'll be a nice 5-man in the NBA.

          I got a chuckle out of some of the Bradley fans on Valleytalk back when he declared for the Draft saying that he needed to come back to Bradley to polish his skills.

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          • #6
            Really good exposure for the Valley. I hope the kid does well. Leaves a pretty big void at BU though.
            "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hime_Peterson
              I got a chuckle out of some of the Bradley fans on Valleytalk back when he declared for the Draft saying that he needed to come back to Bradley to polish his skills.
              They may have been right, though. This yr, he's the #9 pick. If he comes back to Bradley, develops his game more and becomes a true dominating force, not just a rebounder with a seriously in-progress offensive game, maybe he's the #1 or #2 pick next yr. As it is, he's going to have to develop his game in the NBA, something that doesn't always happen well (see the multitude of high schoolers drafted high who have been middling NBA players, even after a # of yrs in the league). O'Bryant took the money now instead of playing for more a yr from now, and that's his choice, but I don't blame Bradley fans (or anyone else) at all for thinking he might've been better served to play another yr.

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              • #8
                Or...if he gets hurt and/or has a substandard year in the eyes of the draft experts...he falls out of the lottery. If you fall out of the lottery...there is no guaranteed money in the NBA! POB's going to make more money on his first contract than I will in my entire working life. He made the right decision. He was a lottery pick...he gets a 3-year deal worth millions and I just hope and pray he's got someone he can trust to manage his money. If he does...he's set for life...period.
                "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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                • #9
                  O'Bryant's situation is far different from the situation of Joakim Noah, Corey Brewer, and Al Horford from Florida. These guys are bona fide studs who just won the National Championship. Even if there was some sort of injury to one of these guys next year, unless it was too serious, all will be Lottery Picks if they come out after next year because they are known quantities as far as NBA potential. Also, they will be playing for a loaded Florida team that plays very well together and has a lot of weapons so one guy can't get keyed on.

                  I'm unsure of how good O'Bryant will be in the NBA as big men like that are hard to guess. But he is a perfect example of how you must "strike when the iron is hot." Basically he had about 4-5 really good games in the postseason and that elevated his stock by leaps and bounds. Next year, Bradley is probably going to be a bottom-half MVC team, meaning that he would have seen a bunch of doubles and triples.

                  There are few certainties in life and when you have a chance to fulfill a dream and become a millionaire, it is silly not to take it unless you have a really good reason (such as a second National Championship) to come back. I used to think differently about this, but I really think that college kids who have a 1st Round guarantee should go to the NBA unless they absolutely, 100% want to stay in college.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by chester
                    They may have been right, though. This yr, he's the #9 pick. If he comes back to Bradley, develops his game more and becomes a true dominating force, not just a rebounder with a seriously in-progress offensive game, maybe he's the #1 or #2 pick next yr. As it is, he's going to have to develop his game in the NBA, something that doesn't always happen well (see the multitude of high schoolers drafted high who have been middling NBA players, even after a # of yrs in the league). O'Bryant took the money now instead of playing for more a yr from now, and that's his choice, but I don't blame Bradley fans (or anyone else) at all for thinking he might've been better served to play another yr.
                    This was thought to be a weak draft class, losing the high school players and for other reasons. A reason a lot of players got in that probably should have reconsidered...stinson....but every year has about 4 or 5 guys that make the mistake of a lifetime like that.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by panther2317
                      Or...if he gets hurt and/or has a substandard year in the eyes of the draft experts...he falls out of the lottery. If you fall out of the lottery...there is no guaranteed money in the NBA!
                      I thought if you were a 1st round pick your contract was guaranteed? Is that wrong?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by chester
                        They may have been right, though. This yr, he's the #9 pick. If he comes back to Bradley, develops his game more and becomes a true dominating force, not just a rebounder with a seriously in-progress offensive game, maybe he's the #1 or #2 pick next yr. As it is, he's going to have to develop his game in the NBA, something that doesn't always happen well (see the multitude of high schoolers drafted high who have been middling NBA players, even after a # of yrs in the league). O'Bryant took the money now instead of playing for more a yr from now, and that's his choice, but I don't blame Bradley fans (or anyone else) at all for thinking he might've been better served to play another yr.
                        He could have benefited from coming back for 1 more season since he is still sort of a project in the NBA... however, I disagree that he could have stayed in college another year and then come out next year as high as #1 or #2. Because of the new Highschool to the nba rule, many players in this years draft benefited by coming out early. there would have been quite a few HS players picked in front of him in this years draft if the rule would not have changed, and those players will be in next years draft instead. So, although he would be improved some by next years draft, i dont think he would be any higher than what he went this year. He was smart to come out this year with the 1 year hault that the new rule made. This also benefits some guys who got drafted late in the 2nd round or didnt get drafted at all. Stinson and Blaylock come to mind. Blaylock was the last pick in the draft and stinson not taken at all.. but they still have a better shot at making a team this year than they would next year when they would have a LOT more players to compete against for a spot on a team.
                        John 3:16

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lil Panther
                          I thought if you were a 1st round pick your contract was guaranteed? Is that wrong?
                          no, you are correct... a 3 year contract
                          John 3:16

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                          • #14
                            If I'm a project, I wouldn't mind getting paid $1 million per year honing my skills and lifting weights.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hime_Peterson
                              If I'm a project, I wouldn't mind getting paid $1 million per year honing my skills and lifting weights.
                              exactly the reason a lot of these players decided to jump the nba this season. many wouldnt have made a team if they waited another year, and with the hault that the new hs to nba rule made, it was perfect for a lot of them to try earning some money this year. in POB's case, he would have made a team next year anyways, but there will be many more quality players coming out next year (including all the HS kids that would have come out this past year), so it was an ideal situation for POB to come out this year. i think he made the right decision. people bash the idea of leaving early. but if i were a sophmore in HS and was offered a million dollars to quit school and start the job of my dreams, i would take it in a flash! i wouldnt be thinking "am i ready?".. i would be thinking.. "this is what i waited my whole life for, i dont care if i am ready, im getting paid and can learn on the job!"
                              John 3:16

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