Wisconsin- Milwaukee vs. UNI Game Thread

[Panthers#1]

Who do you think should be the point guard instead of Brooks?

Joston, Ahlegbah (spelling?), Brown, anyone else.

[Panthers#1]

Brooks is easily our best point guard. I can't believe people are complaining about a student athlete that gives it his all and continually improves his game.

Yeah, I can easily see that our best point guard is someone who leads our team in turnovers. Get real! I can see a PG that turns the ball over ocasionally. But McKowen turns it over constantly. I don't trust him when he is in the game. Yes he is expierenced but you would think that with expierence comes better ball handling skills and making better decisions. Someday, one team will put a lot of pressure on him and a flood of turnovers will occur. If I was an a coach from another team, thats what I would do.

[CR Panther]

First of all...the McLeod Center is Awesome!! We had 6,100 in there tonight, but I thought it was more like 5,000. Alot of empty seats in the student section and in the corners.

Also.....I wasn't happy to see 6-8 open seats in "Deery" row. That's the very thing that pissed off people about the selection process....big donors buying up all the good seats knowing full well that they wouldn't be used. Hopefully they will track them and call them on it.

The open corporate seats chapped my @ss too. More media in there tonight than you will get on most nights. And instead of a fullhouse, we have great courtside side seats sitting open. Love the corporate support. Just hand the tickets out please if you're not going to use them!

It was a great environment. Not a bad seat anywhere. Still hoping for more student and community support. It was so nice to feel like a part of the game for once.

[MiloCat]

Joston, Ahlegbah (spelling?), Brown, anyone else.

What makes you think these guys will have fewer turnovers than McKowen? Brooks isn't the best PG in the league, but at this point he's the best we've got, unless you've seen something I haven't.

[TravOforTHREE]

Travo isn't a Point Guard. I don't remember the last time he actually played the point. Maybe...maybe it might've been in 5th grade but even that is a stretch. So I say Travo would be out the PG race. He's fine where he is. Kwadzo is the man though, if Brooks keeps messing up I'd feel confident with him there.

[Sex Panther...]

Good game. The only problem I see is Brooks. Once again he leads the team in turnovers. Not what we want in a PG. Don't come at me with that "Well he had 8 assists and 10 points. What more do you want from him?" crap. He is the point guard and he is suppose to be the best ball handler on the team. It doesn't do us any good when he leads the team with turnovers.

What happens when we face a real teams like Washington, Iowa, ISU, Creighton, SIU, or WSU? His turnover numbers are going to go up because teams will figure out that he can't handle the ball and his points and assists will go down. If you Panther fans can't see this, then you are drinking too much McKowen Kool-Aid.

While you may be a highly intelligent individual, your post can only be desribed as...well...dense. You are entitled to your opinion, but I doubt it is one that is shared by the majority of people who follow Panther basketball. His assist to turnover ratio through 4 games is 2.3:1 while shouldering almost all the ball handling duties and running the offense. Criticize his shooting percentage if you want, but you are way off base here. He is doing a great, not good, but GREAT job of running the point this year.

[strike00]

I agree, Brooks has done a terrific job at the point so far this season. He is a very important player for the Panthers when out on the floor.

[Sex Panther...]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/leaders?cat=assists&type=1&groupId=50

Brooks has 30 assists through 4 games.

[pantherfan4ever]

Good game. The only problem I see is Brooks. Once again he leads the team in turnovers. Not what we want in a PG. Don't come at me with that "Well he had 8 assists and 10 points. What more do you want from him?" crap. He is the point guard and he is suppose to be the best ball handler on the team. It doesn't do us any good when he leads the team with turnovers.

What happens when we face a real teams like Washington, Iowa, ISU, Creighton, SIU, or WSU? His turnover numbers are going to go up because teams will figure out that he can't handle the ball and his points and assists will go down. If you Panther fans can't see this, then you are drinking too much McKowen Kool-Aid.

haha, ill keep this short and sweet:

1) a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio is not bad at all!

2) PG's almost always lead their teams in TO's because they handle the ball the most

3) "What happens when we face a real teams like washington, iowa, isu.etc?" Brooks has started 3 years and we have 3 trips to the NCAA tourny.. end of story..

[pantherfan4ever]

Yeah, I can easily see that our best point guard is someone who leads our team in turnovers. Get real! I can see a PG that turns the ball over ocasionally. But McKowen turns it over constantly. I don't trust him when he is in the game. Yes he is expierenced but you would think that with expierence comes better ball handling skills and making better decisions. Someday, one team will put a lot of pressure on him and a flood of turnovers will occur. If I was an a coach from another team, thats what I would do.

well heck, why havent you been offered a coaching job? I mean, you obviously have it all figured out...hahaha

Brooks has been our PG for 3 years and we have 3 tourny appearances... dont you think if he was as "weak" as you say that coaches would have figured it out and we wouldnt have 3 tourny appearances with him as our starting PG? haha

3:1 turnover ratio tonight and 2.3:1 this season.. that is great for how much he handles the ball especially since he handles the ball even more this year since the departure of jacobson and crawford who handled it a lot last year. He has looked great

[Panther'73]

I totally agree with JC's post above about the # of empty seats @ center court. I'm also glad UNI will be tracking tickets -

Also, I REALLY liked the tempo of the fight song tonight by the pep band!!
GREAT JOB!! Keep it up!!

[pantherfan4ever]

While you may be a highly intelligent individual, your post can only be desribed as...well...dense. You are entitled to your opinion, but I doubt it is one that is shared by the majority of people who follow Panther basketball. His assist to turnover ratio through 4 games is 2.3:1 while shouldering almost all the ball handling duties and running the offense. Criticize his shooting percentage if you want, but you are way off base here. He is doing a great, not good, but GREAT job of running the point this year.

I totally agree with you! Everyone is entitled to their opinion but this guy is WAY off here. 8 assists to 3 turnovers while handling the ball 90 percent of the game, is not that bad. Players that handle the ball the most usually have the most turnovers, period. This guy acts like it is unusual for your PG to lead the team in TO's..haha.. I will take a 3:1 turnover ratio any day for my PG. he is doing just fine.

[unigriff]

I meant UWM was a "nobody" because its not an Iowa, ISU, Creighton, Minnesota, SIU, or (rated) Bucknell, etc...someone that has a "name" or high rating. I know personally of UWMs accomplishments as I am diehard college sports addict. Seeing as I would one day like to coach at these ranks if my talents ever reached me this far, I know who is who, and what is what in most cases...you gotta be a step ahead in the coaching world.

Then again there are the one-hit wonders, and then there are real-true Mid-Major strongholds (Creighton for example) UWM is a great athletic and academic institution and they have made a name for themselves and I am not selling them PERSONALLY short of that. I was more-or-less speaking from the student section eye.

sorry for the confusion newsy.

[HebrewHammer]

unigriff

Its so funny you mentioned Teenage Wasteland, because thats the song i was thinking they should play when they announced the teams. It just seems right. And i know the student section will be bigger and all, but there were more people there for the volleyball game, and i know there are more bball fans then volleyball fans *as have been evident over the past few years*. Students should want to be in that arena, regardless of who they play. UNC or Duke sell out even if they play a highschool team. Its your team, not the opponent, that should draw a crowd.

[WCFCourier-photo]

photos up from the game

http://www.panthermania.net/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=2