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  • Don't Want to Run and Hide

    I don't want to be one of those guys who makes big preseason predictions about players and then runs away when things don't go as I thought. With that said, I would like to say that while I felt Eglseder was going to make a large, immediate impact this season, I may have set my expectations a little to high. I really felt after watching him this summer, he would be at least an 8 and 8 guy, and hopefully as the season progresses, he will.

    It just seems to me that UNI's strategy is to put players on the floor who they feel match up better with the teams they are playing, rather than putting a 7+ footer in there and having opposing teams have to adjust to thier lineup. Well, whatever they are doing, it's working as we only have one loss.

    Maybe Eglseder's defense is lacking or maybe when all his shots that are just rimming out start to fall, he will see more PT; only time will tell. I hope somewhere in the near future Eglseder breaks out and then stays consistent, but until then, I am just happy watching our team rack up the wins. Sorry for the preseason expectations that have thus-far appeared to be too lofty. GO PANTHERS!
    BMPanther

  • #2
    give the man a chance. he's only a FRESHMAN! takes time to adjust to the speed of the game and the level of play you have to perform at night in and night out. good things will come.

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    • #3
      He'll get better, and he'll be awesome.

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      • #4
        WHOA, WHOA, WHOA!!! Guys, I am probably one of the biggest Jordan fans around, and I am definately not saying I don't think he will still be a great player at some point; hopefully this season. All I was saying was that before the season started, and after he ripped up prime time league, I really blew him up saying he would immediately make a huge impact, and I wanted to apologize for being so optimistic about his early season. I still think he is going to be great, so I'm sorry if may post made it sound otherwise. Big J, your still my number 1 and I know you'll be dominant in the near future.
        BMPanther

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        • #5
          He will be a force before it is all said and done. As Coach Jake said after the Bucknell game, it seems every game one of the freshman step up and with big minutes to help the team. Maybe Tuesday is Jordan's day to bring the HAMMER down on the Hawks!!!!!
          "This program is the most important thing. It was here before we were here, and it will be here after we leave. Right now, we represent this program and this university. We represent the community, we represent the state, and we will do everything that we can to put UNI football at the level we're proud of and always have been at this university. When I'm talking about this program, I'm talking about alumni. This place is important to them, just as it is to me." - Mark Farley, Football Coach

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          • #6
            I think we were very spoiled by Eric Coleman when he came in as a Freshman because of how good he ended up being. I think that because of his Success as a Freshman and his success as a Center we have higher expectations for Jordan, but like it's been said in earlier posts. Give him time, He'll develope. I heard something from the High School Coach at the School I work at that NBA Scouts are really interested in Jordan. That's surprising since he hasn't played in college. He said that's what he had heard so I'm not sure how credible the source was, but either way.

            Give him time, I'm sure he'll prosper, and if he doesn't then that's how it was meant to be.
            The Original PURPLE Wig Guy........ GO PANTHERS
            "You put some dumb red bird, a Hawkeye, and a Panther in a cage, and who do you think is going to win? The Panther would clearly rip the other two to shreds, eat them for dinner (although it would be a small meal for the monstrous beast) and spit out their feathers to make a pillow!"

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            • #7
              I have heard the same thing about the NBA scouts already being high on Jordan. As for being spoiled, I really thought before the season started that Jordan would have as good if not a better season than Coleman's Freshman year based on his summer success. I believe now that prime time is really overrated. I also believe Jordan could still have a great year.
              BMPanther

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              • #8
                Two points, the summer league Jordan played in is apparently offensively minded. As I understand it little or less defense is played which would make it appear as if he can and should be scoring at will. Second, after only watching the ISU game so far, it appeared to me Jordan's defensive position was maybe a quarter step slow. I think that will be fixed with a little more experience. I also think that freshman don't get close calls. There were a few played Jordan was right there on defense where it appeared to me that the call could have gone either way and he doesn't have the rep to get a call. Officials are human. I think reputation can effect an official's judgment in close call situations. Disclaimer: I'm no expert and haven't seen Jordan play that much. He looks like everything I thought he'd be.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BMPanther View Post
                  It just seems to me that UNI's strategy is to put players on the floor who they feel match up better with the teams they are playing, rather than putting a 7+ footer in there and having opposing teams have to adjust to thier lineup.
                  Thats exactly what UNI does. It would be a lot to ask a true freshman to go out there and be the #1 guy. Coleman had to do it a few years ago. Now we have the talent so we don't have to rely on him that much. Jordan can now sit back and learn the game and become a better player in the future.

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                  • #10
                    Jordan will do fine. His footwork is really good when he posts up. He does everything right, the shots just aren't falling. He'll get better as the season goes along.
                    THE CAGES ARE OPEN AND THE CATS ARE IN THE HOUSE

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                    • #11
                      Jordan and primetime

                      Let's keep in mind that during Coleman's Freshman year he was playing behind Mr. Gruber. He was given some time to learn the system and frankly, how to play the post. Jordan will be a force once he learns that duckunders and finesse is for someone else, not for someone his size and bulk. As far as primetime, My son Matt has already said he won;t be going back next summer because the overall work can't be acheived and never will be. It is a Hawkeye league and defense and rebounding isn't stressed. Whatever is done by a player there, discount it as just time served once the season starts. Go Cats!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 43's pop View Post
                        Let's keep in mind that during Coleman's Freshman year he was playing behind Mr. Gruber. He was given some time to learn the system and frankly, how to play the post.
                        gruber was gone by the time coleman got here, he stepped right into the starting lineup. grant got the benefit of gruber and schneiderman

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                        • #13
                          Please don't ever assume that offensive success in the PTL means anything BUT offensive success in the PTL. They don't play a stitch of defense in that league and there are guys who don't have a fraction of Jordan's talent and ability who average 20 points a game in that league.

                          Jordan's the real deal. But he's got 2 pre-season All-Valley performers playing in front of him. Hopefully he's benefitting from playing vs. those guys in practice everyday. I've been impressed with Jordan everytime he's taken the floor this season. He does little things correctly and that means that when he's given the chance to play extended minutes...those fundamentals will give him the chance to show his talent. Patience young grasshopper...Jordan's role will expand and he will see success as a freshman.
                          "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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                          • #14
                            I have to say that I have been very impressed by all four of the Panther freshman. As Coach Jake mentioned on Saturday after the game, a freshman has stepped up in every game so far this year. What is critical in my mind is that they are able to hold their own on the defensive end. The offensive flow will come for Jordan and the others.

                            I think that the caliber of these freshman is a testiment of how the men's hoops program has reached a new level.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TC in the House View Post
                              Jordan will do fine. His footwork is really good when he posts up. He does everything right, the shots just aren't falling. He'll get better as the season goes along.
                              Yup. Jordan has done EVERYTHING but put the ball in the basket. The shots will start falling and he'll be pretty darn good.
                              TH1974: This guy was all-UNI, and wanted to show it by pretending to play a non-existant musical instrument in public.

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