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  • #46
    Originally posted by orangetennis View Post

    This. But this team has 0 inside presence. McDonnel has no athleticism and can barely jump. He's 6'9'' playing like he's 6'5''. I can't understand how Dahl sees no run, even against a DIII school.
    This. I don't see Phyfe getting back very soon. McDonnell isn't a bad player, but he's going to get eaten up by some of the big men in the Valley. Imo, we don't have a choice, unless he's completely incompetent (which the Utah St game proves he's not) Dahl needs to be on the court. We just need an inside presence.
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    • #47
      Seems like every year we end up being pretty good to set up an even better year....we start really bad. So thats the straw I’m grasping at now.

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      • #48
        FWIW, Coach Jake mentioned the possibility of a redshirt for Phyfe in his postgame. Sounds like he's really been struggling with his condition the past 2 weeks or so.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by run&blade View Post
          Why do we know the talent is good? Outside AJ?

          thry have done nothing for what ? 3 years?

          farley can recruit and can’t coach.

          Jake can’t recruit but can coach.

          I don’t get why people think the talent is there. Based on what? Recruiting hype?

          i day its time to shake up the coaching staff.
          Please enlighten us on the 3, 4, 5 star recruits eve had in the past. I've said it before and you don't bother to respond. He have our best recruit ever at in AJ. Last year Tywhon was on the Valley All-Newcomer and All-Freshman teams. Berhow played very well as a freshman at Pepperdine. McDonnell was a guy a lot of little thought was going P5. Biggie had P5 offers before coming here. If you want to whine about not developing guys, that's fine, but the BS that we don't recruit talent is ignorant and completely stupid.

          Rant over
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          • #50
            Originally posted by CyCarp View Post

            Please enlighten us on the 3, 4, 5 star recruits eve had in the past. I've said it before and you don't bother to respond. He have our best recruit ever at in AJ. Last year Tywhon was on the Valley All-Newcomer and All-Freshman teams. Berhow played very well as a freshman at Pepperdine. McDonnell was a guy a lot of little thought was going P5. Biggie had P5 offers before coming here. If you want to whine about not developing guys, that's fine, but the BS that we don't recruit talent is ignorant and completely stupid.

            Rant over
            McDermott recruited better and it isn’t even close. The sweet 16 team was lead by guys that committed to Mac.

            I dont expect uni to get 4 and 5 star guys but I do expect them to get guys that should be playing DI basketball.

            Its either recruiting or coaching or both.

            Saying b.s. like “young” or “chemistry” is just polite ways of saying something close to nothing.

            i guess if UNI is young this year they were just old and crappy the past few years.

            Spin in any way you want.
            Last edited by run&blade; 12-08-2018, 07:19 PM.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by run&blade View Post

              McDermott recruited better and it isn’t even close. The sweet 16 team was all guys that committed to Mac.

              I dont expect uni to get 4 and 5 star guys but I do expect them to get guys that should be playing DI basketball.

              Its either recruiting or coaching or both.

              Saying b.s. like “young” or “chemistry” is just polite ways of saying something close to nothing.
              Like I said, if you want to talk about developing his that's one thing. If you want to taking about getting guys that bigger schools from higher conferences are after, you're wrong. Did Mac get any recruit who had P5 offers other than Adam Koch? Honest question, Eglseder didn't, Kwadzo didn't, Ali didn't... at least I'm pretty sure not. Jake had gotten many.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by CyCarp View Post

                Like I said, if you want to talk about developing his that's one thing. If you want to taking about getting guys that bigger schools from higher conferences are after, you're wrong. Did Mac get any recruit who had P5 offers other than Adam Koch? Honest question, Eglseder didn't, Kwadzo didn't, Ali didn't... at least I'm pretty sure not. Jake had gotten many.
                Jake recruits the same player over and over. Small frame, can’t create their own shot, and very little if any athleticism.

                Mac got got a nice variety. He didn’t get 10 chuckers and one or two big guys.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by run&blade View Post

                  Jake recruits the same player over and over. Small frame, can’t create their own shot, and very little if any athleticism.

                  Mac got got a nice variety. He didn’t get 10 chuckers and one or two big guys.
                  I won't disagree with saying Jake hasn't done a good job recruiting big men, I think Dahl was the shot in the dark that Eglseder was for McDermott. Tut is easily the best big we've ever had although he really wasn't a typical big. Also, if you're implying that McDermott recruited a lot of athleticism, I think your crazy. Morgan, Brown, and Wes are probably the most "athletic" guys we've had in the 15+ years that I've watched. You could maybe throw Coleman in there, but regardless, my point stands.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by run&blade View Post

                    Jake recruits the same player over and over. Small frame, can’t create their own shot, and very little if any athleticism.

                    Mac got got a nice variety. He didn’t get 10 chuckers and one or two big guys.
                    You have a really short and poor memory.

                    Mac recruited more than one or two big guys?
                    2003-04 Tourney team: Schneiderman 6-9 (juco recruit), David Gruber 6-6 (juco), Grant Stout 6-8, Jon Godfread 6-10 (transfer), Erik Crawford 6-5 (transfer-not really a big man), and Atila Santos (6-10) was a redshirt. 2 jucos, 2 transfer, a redshirt who would leave before ever doing anything here and then Stout. Deep recruiting.
                    2004-05 Tourney team: Stout 6-8, Santos 6-10, Godfread 6-10, Crawford 6-5, and Eric Coleman 6-6, Santos and Godfread hardly played
                    2005-06 Tourney team: Stout, Santos, Crawford, Coleman and no new bigs and Santos hardly played
                    2006-07 Mac left, Stout and Coleman remain, Koch and Eglseder come in, oh and Dunham at 6-6 but again, not really a big

                    What did those teams have otherwise? "Chuckers" Jacobson, Little, McKowen, Viet, Josten, Foster, Schmit, Haak-biggest of those was Viet at 6-3

                    This team has always consisted of 2-3 bigs who rotate (with sometimes only 1 in) while playing at least 3 guards.

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                    • #55
                      Mac - 3 tourney bids and zero wins. Jake - 4 tourney bids and 4 wins. Three years ago we were a tourney team. We have struggled for a little over two years. Get the facts correct please.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by panther91 View Post
                        Mac - 3 tourney bids and zero wins. Jake - 4 tourney bids and 4 wins. Three years ago we were a tourney team. We have struggled for a little over two years. Get the facts correct please.
                        Two of his tourney wins were led by guys that committed to UNI when Mac was coach.

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                        • #57
                          Who got those guys to stay with UNI after Mac jumped ship for the ISU paycheck?

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                          • #58
                            1. We started one player today that was a regular starter last year (Brown).

                            2. A. J. has to stay out of foul trouble.

                            3. Big men get fouled. Luke needs to be able to make free throws. To stay on the floor at the end of games (for rebounding, etc. when we are ahead) he must improve.

                            4. We made our comeback with a (press) run & jump defense. We are playing about 10 players. We can and need to press more - let Brown do his thing.

                            5. 6'10" athletes are what everyone wants. It is easy to say we should recruit them. Stealing them away from P5s is not.

                            6. Berhow had a pretty good first half. I was surprised he was not in as much later - but Pick is coming on.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by run&blade View Post

                              Two of his tourney wins were led by guys that committed to UNI when Mac was coach.
                              FFS, Coach Jake was on the damn coaching staff when those guys committed. You keep on acting like those teams back then in Jake's first few years had never met the guy before he took over the program.

                              Look, every once in a while I find myself agreeing with you (which makes me feel like I need to take a shower), but posts like this are why nobody likes you.

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                              • #60
                                Let’s say Jake gets canned after this year and they hand the reins to Kyle Green. If AJ Green sticks around and we win NCAA tournament games in the future, would those count as “Jake recruit wins” or “Kyle recruit wins”? Distinguishing between the two when there is an overlap of individuals on the coaching staff is silly.

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