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  • #1

    Barz and O'Rear

    So all i know of these 2 is what i read on their threads in the recruiting area... i have a couple questions and would like people input...

    1)how tall is barz?

    2)compared to our current players, how high of quality are these 2 incoming freshman? are they as good of recruits are we had this past off season?

    3)do you think they will get playing time next year?

    4)what is each players style of play? (are they like coleman, stout, koch, jordan?)

    5)i know we had 5 very good freshman come into our program this past off season, so who do we have besides these 2 that will be coming in?

    THANKS!
    John 3:16
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    1.) 6'10"
    2.) Barz 3-star on rivals.com...none of the current post players were that high...however, I would love the luxury at being able to redshirt Barz. He gets to 235-240lbs and continues to develop an extended range, he has the potential to be a 3 year starter. Barz is the best prospect in the state of Iowa. O'Rear is a 6'6"/6'7" bruiser. Maybe the closest to Coleman of any of the current/future post players...but he doesn't have the length and athleticism of Coleman. Let's be honest though...Coleman is a rare bread and you rarely find a guy like him. O'Rear can step out and hit 15' extended, however, he is not asked to do so with his varsity team. Is most likely a '4'. Barz is a '5'.

    Barz is the most highly recruited, but it's b/c he is the best player in the state in his class, has gone to Nike AA camp, etc... O'Rear is a 3 sport athlete, undersized, and in southern Illinois away from a metro area (unlike Barz). Jones was a late Jake signee, so he's a little different of a story, but Eglseder's height and early commit opened up people's eyes and his hype had 3 years to grow. Dunham had 2 years and big time scoring seasons to build his hype. Koch had the offers from West Virginia, Northwestern, and Washington State to build his hype. Kwadzo is from Tartan HS, and we all love our Tartan players, plus a year and a half since his commitment to build his hype. So, last year's class brought great hype due to the things I said previously, in addition to the quantity, whereas this class probably won't, but moreso due to the smaller class, and less guady numbers/offers.

    You can probably compare this class to the one with BennyJ, J-Lit, and Erik Crawford. Barz is our Benny J (Iowa kid, metro area, great AAU summer, can see the talent is there), O'Rear is our J-Lit (Illinois kid, undersized, hard worker, can play right away), and our future guard signee will be like E Crawford (late signee, probably from out of state, will be skilled to play multiple positions).

    3.) I think one of the two posts will play next year. Having 4 posts instead of 3 is best, IMO. The guard is TBD.

    4.) Stated previously

    5.) Drew Lundberg is another kid coming in to play PG I believe. He will redshirt next year and walk on for two years and then get a scholy his sophomore year.
    Last edited by Panthers to the Bone; 12-29-2006, 06:29 PM.
    The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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    • #3
      Also, last year's class is one in which the future will be built off of. I see the previous teams as the foundation...last year's recruiting class is the big time class that elevates this team. This upcoming class is a stabilizer.
      The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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      • #4
        We're really going to like Barz in a few years. I'm also hoping we can readshirt him because he could use a year to put on some muscle. However, he's very skilled and is fairly athletic. I don't see either of these two starting next year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they both played, especially O'Rear because he's already pretty stocky. With Jorda, Koch, Coleman, and even Everette back, I'm hoping we can redshirt at least one of these guys.

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        • #5
          I think that O'Rear could turn into a player like Bruner, Barz is young still 17 won't turn 18 until April.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Back2BackCats View Post
            I think that O'Rear could turn into a player like Bruner, Barz is young still 17 won't turn 18 until April.
            Probably a very nice comparison of O'Rear. He will have alot of work to do to get to his level, but similar in many respects.

            B2BC-
            I watched some of the highlights of Johnston on IowaPreps.Com. If Johnston gets better guard play, Brent could have a fantastic senior season and make another trip to 'The Well'. Could probably use Joel Quick this year, huh?
            The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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            • #7
              I think they have all the parts, just need to play a little more as a team right now, still learning a new offense we'll see how they progress as the season goes on. Joel definately wouldn't hurt us.

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