Game 8 at Evansville 12/2 1pm tip

[CyCarp]

Let's all be honest....its time for the guy at the top of this program to be held accountable....every excuse has been made..we are paying someone a mil a year for mediocrity at the best..

100%. Imagine what the last 6 years of this program would look like if AJ Green's dad didn't coach here.

[PantherObserver]

You mean the guy who couldn't even coach us out of a basic full court press in our last loss in the NCAA tourny? Nearly 8 years ago?

People here are finally ready to announce that maybe he's the problem?

[PantherObserver]

He also had a Top 10 team with his guys but you do you....

That said. Unacceptable and it's got to change. We don't have the length to play D the way he wants to and he's too stubborn to change. Teams are going to keep shooting ungodly 3 point percentages if we let everybody set their feet.

How'd that year and the following turn out? He couldn't figure out (that whole season, mind you) how to get his guys to break a press? And then we were embarrassed so bad in front of the entire country that even LeBron was giving us ****? Good times!

[Alum 99']

Must be nice to go to work everyday being WAY overpaid and under perform year in and year out and having zero concern of losing your job...sign me up

[Username]

20 game winning streak upcoming

[achrist70]

He also had a Top 10 team with his guys but you do you....

That said. Unacceptable and it's got to change. We don't have the length to play D the way he wants to and he's too stubborn to change. Teams are going to keep shooting ungodly 3 point percentages if we let everybody set their feet.

I think that this team has just as much if not more length as other teams we have had who have been much more successful defensively. I think it is more the stubbornness to make changes. I also get the feeling looking on from the outside that this is coach led team instead of a player led team which when things get tough our players don't react well.

[PantherAlum09]

I think the biggest thing with this team is the overall lack of defensive pressure and toughness. The shots not falling as consistently right now stinks, but offense really isn't the problem at this point outside of free throw shooting. This is going to continue being an issue as Tytan and Jacob are going to be our most consistent visitors to the line and they will both struggle. (I do think Tytan has looked better at the line so far this year)

We used to pride ourselves on being a team that rarely fouls and plays solid defense. We are putting teams in the double bonus for 8-10 minutes every half. We don't draw fouls on offense, and when we do we shoot 50%-60% while other teams shoot 80%. That combined with the fact that we consistently allow teams to shoot over 50% from 3 makes it next to impossible for us to compete right now. The numbers just don't add up for us to win these games.

I honestly don't know how we are going to right the ship, but from my very untrained eye, the intention and intensity on both sides of the ball needs to get significantly better.

[BCPanther]

I think that this team has just as much if not more length as other teams we have had who have been much more successful defensively. I think it is more the stubbornness to make changes. I also get the feeling looking on from the outside that this is coach led team instead of a player led team which when things get tough our players don't react well.

We're longer but the 3 point line is also a foot and a half further back. It's a philosophical failure. Kids shoot better now than they ever have and uncontested/lightly contested jump shooters are going to eat you alive in the year of our lord 2023.

[BCPanther]

I think the biggest thing with this team is the overall lack of defensive pressure and toughness. The shots not falling as consistently right now stinks, but offense really isn't the problem at this point outside of free throw shooting. This is going to continue being an issue as Tytan and Jacob are going to be our most consistent visitors to the line and they will both struggle. (I do think Tytan has looked better at the line so far this year)

We used to pride ourselves on being a team that rarely fouls and plays solid defense. We are putting teams in the double bonus for 8-10 minutes every half. We don't draw fouls on offense, and when we do we shoot 50%-60% while other teams shoot 80%. That combined with the fact that we consistently allow teams to shoot over 50% from 3 makes it next to impossible for us to compete right now. The numbers just don't add up for us to win these games.

I honestly don't know how we are going to right the ship, but from my very untrained eye, the intention and intensity on both sides of the ball needs to get significantly better.

That's a lot of words to say that we're incredibly soft and you're exactly right.

[CyCarp]

We're longer but the 3 point line is also a foot and a half further back. It's a philosophical failure. Kids shoot better now than they ever have and uncontested/lightly contested jump shooters are going to eat you alive in the year of our lord 2023.

I just can't get over the 3 Evansville hit with about a minute and a half left in OT on Saturday. It sums up this teams defense perfectly. Campbell goes to double the dribbler, Evansville passes to the shooter, Born acts like he's going to guard the shooter then backs off to guard his guy, Campbell doesn't close on the shooter at all - neither Born and Campbell attempt to get a hand up and the guy gets a completely wide 3 for the lead. And all the action (the dribbler, the shooter, the guy Born is defending) are within probably 12 feet of each other. It's just mind boggling to me how a defense can be so bad.

[unsc_seizethemeans]

I just can't get over the 3 Evansville hit with about a minute and a half left in OT on Saturday. It sums up this teams defense perfectly. Campbell goes to double the dribbler, Evansville passes to the shooter, Born acts like he's going to guard the shooter then backs off to guard his guy, Campbell doesn't close on the shooter at all - neither Born and Campbell attempt to get a hand up and the guy gets a completely wide 3 for the lead. And all the action (the dribbler, the shooter, the guy Born is defending) are within probably 12 feet of each other. It's just mind boggling to me how a defense can be so bad.

This is a great example. We obviously have some issues with the defensive scheming, but this example shows what seems like a lack of simple defensive fundamentals that kids learn in junior high. It's like we don't have defensive instincts that should have been drilled into D1 players years ago.

[BrockLesnar]

Will Rubin, Hutson, Pock, and Taylor become so discouraged that they hit the portal at season's end!?

[BCPanther]

To me, here's part of our problem.....

Lake City
Oskaloosa
Cedar Falls
Cedar Falls
Chicago Simeon
Grand Blanc
Edina
Norwalk
Lumberton
Dubuque
Cedar Falls
Bolivar
Cedar Falls
Eldridge
West Des Moines

That's a whole group of guys that haven't faced a ton of adversity in life and that really, really matters and shows it's face a lot. I'm not saying that they don't work hard because they absolutely do but it's a group that's going to be okay if basketball doesn't work out for them....

[Neighbor]

I just can't get over the 3 Evansville hit with about a minute and a half left in OT on Saturday. It sums up this teams defense perfectly. Campbell goes to double the dribbler, Evansville passes to the shooter, Born acts like he's going to guard the shooter then backs off to guard his guy, Campbell doesn't close on the shooter at all - neither Born and Campbell attempt to get a hand up and the guy gets a completely wide 3 for the lead. And all the action (the dribbler, the shooter, the guy Born is defending) are within probably 12 feet of each other. It's just mind boggling to me how a defense can be so bad.

I wasn't able to watch but I listened to JwC on the road.

The issue described above can be corrected. Those things do happen and can be attributed to communication and mix up of strategy / schemes.

We'll improve

[orangetennis]

To me, here's part of our problem.....

Lake City
Oskaloosa
Cedar Falls
Cedar Falls
Chicago Simeon
Grand Blanc
Edina
Norwalk
Lumberton
Dubuque
Cedar Falls
Bolivar
Cedar Falls
Eldridge
West Des Moines

That's a whole group of guys that haven't faced a ton of adversity in life and that really, really matters and shows it's face a lot. I'm not saying that they don't work hard because they absolutely do but it's a group that's going to be okay if basketball doesn't work out for them....

WOW. This post could take this thread in a thousand different directions! Lol