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Game 15 - Jan 4 - At Valpo

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  • #46
    Well, that sucked.


    The two above commentors are spot on.

    We looked like a Valpo team of old. Hope Tytan can have a game at the FT line like that again sometime when it matters. He collected more all-conference votes tonight.

    Doesn't look like our year. Again.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by '70 Grad View Post
      Well, that sucked.


      The two above commentors are spot on.

      We looked like a Valpo team of old. Hope Tytan can have a game at the FT line like that again sometime when it matters. He collected more all-conference votes tonight.

      Doesn't look like our year. Again.
      We're tied for first.
      Winning is more fun than losing.

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      • #48
        Yeah, I've been whatever on the whole we'll get em next time attitude we have at times, but it is what it is. At least we dropped our 4th game this time instead of starting 1-4 like it's been in the past.

        Cannot say enough about Ty. Just a freakin monster who will probably win us a game by himself in STL again.

        Redek has impressed me for a true freshman thrown into the ringer mid season. Especially for a guy who many of us including myself saw as a sweetener to convince Bowen to stick around for one more. He showed speed that looked like his brother, while having the size to stay on the court.

        Get the bench lineup was a part of the comeback, but not sure on why Bond or even Schweiger were eating minutes as Pock was providing next to 0 value late.

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        • #49
          NET only fell 2 spots to 81.

          Bradley fell 5 spots to 75 after beating Missouri State.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Blue42 View Post

            We're tied for first.
            After 4 league games, we are tied for second.

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            • #51
              Every game is an exhibition until St. Louis anyways. Enjoy the ride!

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Username View Post
                Yeah, I've been whatever on the whole we'll get em next time attitude we have at times, but it is what it is. At least we dropped our 4th game this time instead of starting 1-4 like it's been in the past.

                Cannot say enough about Ty. Just a freakin monster who will probably win us a game by himself in STL again.

                Redek has impressed me for a true freshman thrown into the ringer mid season. Especially for a guy who many of us including myself saw as a sweetener to convince Bowen to stick around for one more. He showed speed that looked like his brother, while having the size to stay on the court.

                Get the bench lineup was a part of the comeback, but not sure on why Bond or even Schweiger were eating minutes as Pock was providing next to 0 value late.
                I assume Jake thinks Pock is their best chance at hitting some quick threes to get back into the game. He seemed to be doing a little defense to offense substitution. I love Leon and Ben, and even though their 3 pt % is pretty darn good, it's pretty obvious that it still isn't a true strength quite yet. Their misses can be really bad sometimes.

                My bigger gripe is that we got ourselves back into the game with that zone and then abandoned it and quickly gave up a couple scores. We seem to only go to that zone when we are desperate. I wonder if we just mix it in more often just to throw a change up at teams.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
                  NET only fell 2 spots to 81.

                  Bradley fell 5 spots to 75 after beating Missouri State.
                  Again, honest question, why do we care what our NET is at this point? And I don’t think it’s for the good of the Valley because no one is getting an at-large at this point. Does anyone see Drake only having another loss, or two, here on out. Only thing I can think of is recruiting talking point about we play in the Xth best league, but that’s a stretch.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Panther Fan View Post

                    Again, honest question, why do we care what our NET is at this point?
                    We care about the metrics for UNI and every team in the conference, that is the only way the league gets back to a place where it gets multiple bids in the tournament.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by PantherAlum09 View Post

                      I assume Jake thinks Pock is their best chance at hitting some quick threes to get back into the game. He seemed to be doing a little defense to offense substitution. I love Leon and Ben, and even though their 3 pt % is pretty darn good, it's pretty obvious that it still isn't a true strength quite yet. Their misses can be really bad sometimes.

                      My bigger gripe is that we got ourselves back into the game with that zone and then abandoned it and quickly gave up a couple scores. We seem to only go to that zone when we are desperate. I wonder if we just mix it in more often just to throw a change up at teams.
                      Teams tend to figure out zones as the game progresses, so I don't mind abandoning it as a change of pace.

                      Maybe we see it more often as a change of pace, but it is sort of a desperation type defense anyway, and the more you use it, the easier it is to dissect and gameplan for.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Username View Post

                        Teams tend to figure out zones as the game progresses, so I don't mind abandoning it as a change of pace.

                        Maybe we see it more often as a change of pace, but it is sort of a desperation type defense anyway, and the more you use it, the easier it is to dissect and gameplan for.
                        Just a crazy thought -

                        Jim Boeheim/Syracuse recruited length and featured a wicked 2-3 or 3-2 (1-2-2) zone. We may have our longest team ever. Should we go to the time-line trap + zone a little more than in the past (not just in desperation/losing situations)?

                        I know. It's Jake.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by nadf. View Post

                          We care about the metrics for UNI and every team in the conference, that is the only way the league gets back to a place where it gets multiple bids in the tournament.
                          Exactly this.

                          We know the game has changed but it's real important to be able to say we play in a top 10 league.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by '70 Grad View Post

                            Just a crazy thought -

                            Jim Boeheim/Syracuse recruited length and featured a wicked 2-3 or 3-2 (1-2-2) zone. We may have our longest team ever. Should we go to the time-line trap + zone a little more than in the past (not just in desperation/losing situations)?

                            I know. It's Jake.
                            That's who I think of with our length. It's really not that crazy when we have Trey, Leon, Ben, Ty, and Will or Hutty. Everyone is 6'4" or taller and long. We don't have to do it all the time like Boeheim, but I do think it could be a weapon for us.

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                            • #59
                              The zone also worked the best with Tytan up top, and honestly Hutty off the floor, I think Pock or Hornseth can be one of the bottom guys, although both were when it looked the best, I do think that Leon can play the bottom or the wing, and everyone else is a wing in it.

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                              • #60
                                There's a whole bunch of things to note coming off that game. 1, Valpo is a pretty good basketball team. Even with Mascari and Stirtz both being sharp Drake barely snuck by against them, and they went to multiple overtimes at Peoria. 2, Hutty was clearly not himself. I feel like a healthy Hutty would have made a big difference in that game with his ability to stretch the floor offensively. 3, Tytan likely had the best game of his career, and it feels like he's already trending towards that takeover mode that carried us at the end of the year last season. When he is in that mindset, this team is better for it. Now we just need to get some other guys around him to figure it out.

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