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Today on ESPN i saw that duke is retiring both JJ Reddick and Sheldon Williams numbers. These two guys never took duke to the finals but yet they honor them. Don't you think that honoring a player like Ben Jacobson or Coach McDermott should be in order for turning the program around? I'm not looking for another discussion about McDermott, but he saved the program and should be honored in some way for that, and as for Benny, we all know what he did here.
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I don't think Jacobson was such a force that he should be thought of as a "Retired Jersey Good" player after being out for only a year...Originally posted by HebrewHammer View Post
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there is a certain case for mcdermott... but for all that he did, coack jake could take us to a level that as yet to be seen... only time will tell, that's not to say mac didn't do some thing special, because he did and i still have a great amount of respect and thankfulness for all he did but who knows?
but what about old panthers like reese, daisy, blocker, johnson, phyfe, turner just to name a few... let's not forget how long it took for stan sheriff and eldon to get their name of things on campus... there is also a case to be made for the football team and retiring numbers: ward, shedd, warner, paup, james jones, ty talton, meester, etc. or even terry allen, look what he did for uni football?i may not wear the colors but i'm panthers at heartComment
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i agree completley with that. Retiring numbers just validates to the players, as long as the fans, that these players were great. Someone in the AD should look into it!Comment
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I think sometimes schools too often get in a hurry to retire numbers, and it's unneccesary. IMO, a retired jersey shouldn't take place until at least 8-10 years after the player finished his career at the school. That way, there is a benchmark for future players to achieve. If that benchmark hasn't been attained, and if after that time people still feel that that athlete is deserving, then I think you can put it to a vote.
2 questions:
1. How many All-Americans has UNI had in basketball?
2. How many numbers are retired b/t FB and BB at UNI?The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.Comment
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I think you'll see...
... many of the above named athletes eventually enshrined in the UNI Athletics Hall of Fame without having their numbers retired.Comment
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Jason Reese is the only player that is worthy of that honor in basketball, IMO... All time leading scorer and was the leader that took the program to its first NCAA.
In football, I really can't think of anyone. We are giving people credit for what they did in the Pros and not in College. Remember, Kurt Warner only played one year here. Just my 2 cents...Comment
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OOH! I know!1. How many All-Americans has UNI had in basketball?
Pete Spoden, 1963-64 I believe... I may be wrong on the year. Didn't Kraayenbrink get an honorobale mention?
"Once it starts, it never ends."
-Eldon MillerComment
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I think retiring numbers would be pretty cool, in time. I'd say five to ten years after they leave UNI is suitable. It's important to not get too number retiring happy becasue the amount of players going through the program verses numbers available is a factor. (in all sports) But also we can't have the "what's been done for me lately" mentality when it comes to retiring numbers. IMO Retiring numbers would be great, but after a set amount of time, and for extraordinary performances.Comment
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Originally posted by Brett Crawford View Post
Reese was awesome, Sporting News called him The Beast of the Baseline. Basketball wise IMO Reese is the only player worthy of having his number retired.
I would put Eldon Miller's and McDermott's name on a ring of honor in the new building.
Football is more difficult to judge IMO and I will leave it at that.Comment
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When Mac retires, he can be recognized. Same with TA. Most honors like this require a person to be retired before being inducted. I don't like honoring coaches that are working for someone else now. Wait until they hang up their coaching hats, then bring them back to be honored.Originally posted by run&blade View PostIf computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times
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I am not sure that TA is deserving. He had a great record, but he took over a program that was in pretty good shape, and never took the program farther than it had gone before.
IMO-- at this point Mark Farley is more deserving...Comment
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Whatever your personal opinions are of TA, he won. Eight years, 6 conference titles, 74% winning percentage, 2 coach of the years awards, 3 semifinal appearances, many all-Americans. He made the playoffs 6 years in a row. If that isn't good enough to be honored, I don't know what is. You don't consistently win over an eight year period based simply on taking over a program in good shape.Originally posted by Brett Crawford View Post
FWIW - The previous year UNI went all of 5-6 under the infamous Earl Bruce.If computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times
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IMO, no fb coach will be worthy until they win a National Championship.
No basketball player should be retired until they are an All-American.Comment
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But do MVC players at this point receive enough recognition to be seriously considered for All-American teams when they're not averaging 25 or 30 points per game?Originally posted by Matt Trump View Post
I agree that Jason Reese should have his number retired. I think so much of him that I screwed up and wrote him in for the all-time MVC team."Lot of people talked about Ohio State or Georgetown or Michigan State or whoever, [or] Maryland in our bracket. When the brackets came out, the first team I looked at was Northern Iowa," Kansas Coach Bill Self.Comment
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