Pessimism yet Optimism

[jegbomb52]

There is ZERO chance that MSU will flop. With the loss to SIU at home the other night, MSU is a flop and a 1st round MVC loss from being out of the dance.

Touché
very good point!

I don't think that we will have to win two games to get a five seed, all we need is to beat lowly Illinois State at our place. That will give us the five seed. After WSU lost to Drake, they will have to either beat MSU at home or Creighton on the road to get the five seed, I just don't see that happening. We are either the six or five, making the four is irrelevant. The five is just as good, same first round opponent (Bradley) and same second round opponent (SIU). If we get the six seed we end up with MSU first round and Creighton in the second, that is not as appealing to me. I would love to play the nightcap on Friday though, that would be sweet!

[jegbomb52]

If we win one of our last two and WSU loses their last two, who would get the fifth place spot in the tourney? Does anyone know how it works? Would they start at the top and do tie breaker with our record against SIU, and then Creighton, then MSU or what?

[Panthers to the Bone]

Tiebreaker formula:

http://www.mvc-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7600&KEY=&ATCLID=274386&SPID=2901&SPSID=41239

[jegbomb52]

If, IF IF IF IF:

WSU loses out (which could happen very easily by playing MSU at home and then Creighton on the road all we would have to do is beat Illinois State at home to have the tie breaker against them for the five seed! This is based on the MVC tie-breaker system between two teams that P to the B was so gracious to supply for us.

WSU

No wins against #1 0 pts
One win against #2 Home 17 pts
No wins against #3 0 pts
One win against #4 Home 13 pts
Two wins against #7 Home, Road 15 pts
One win against #8 Home 5 pts
One win against #9 Home 3 pts
One win against #10 Home 1 pts

Total 54 pts

UNI

One win against #1 Home 19 pts
No wins against #2 0 pts
One win against #3 Road 16 pts
One win against #4 Home 13 pts
Two wins against #7 Home, Road 15 pts
No wins against #8 0 pts
No wins against #9 0 pts
One win against #10 Home 1 pts

Total 66 pts

[UNIAlum95]

If, IF IF IF IF:

I hate those ifs, but a 5th seed at this point would be fantastic. We need to find something to spark this team. Who is going to step up tomorrow night?

[jegbomb52]

5th seed would be huge! I still think that regardless of whether we play Bradley or SMS first round we will win. After a week of rest and regrouping we will be ready to return to Early Season form.

[panthercy]

Hi guys first time poster here. Been checking the site for about the last year. And yes reading my name I am a cyclone fan too, but I do love my panthers! Just a couple of thoughts about the MVC tourney.... I am obviously hoping for the 5 seed just like everyone else.

It will be interesting to see how Missouri State reacts from the big loss to Winthrop. Whether they come back strong and get some momentum before Arch Madness or whether they flounder down the stretch which I think if thats the case would be a great first round matchup for us because we matched up well with them in both meetings this year.

If we get the 5 seed that means we will face Bradley. I like this match-up as well. Tomorrow night will be a big game. Although not crazy about beating a good team twice in the regular season and playing them in the quarters of the conference tourney.

Anyways should be an interesting next couple of weeks. And even with as bad as we are playing you cant help but be excited for ARCH MADNESS. Were bound to put it together one of these days Dont go too hard on my first post fellas!

[PantherFan]

I hope we get 5th place. On the other hand, if Drake wins twice and UNI losses twice, Drake gets 6th place and UNI is playing on Thursday.

[jegbomb52]

pretty much! I don't think Drake will beat Mizzou State at Mizzou State!

[panther2317]

I haven't even looked at the math...is 5th place possible?

[BCPanther]

If we win 1 of 2 and WSU loses out (vs. MSU, @CU) we are the 5. We have the tiebreaker...

[Durf73]

Here's one I heard tonight Iowa vs UNI in the NIT at the McLeod Center, gee do you think we could fill it or would we be foolish enough to move it to the Dome !
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[Panthers to the Bone]

Don't think Drake can win at Mizzou State? I never doubt Drake anymore. I remember UNI going on a losing streak at the end of McD's first season. Drake went on a winning streak, and ended up beating Creighton in Omaha on the Monday before the tourney. Talk about a kick in the pants! The Panthers just need to win and take all decision making out of Drake's hands!

[panther2317]

Drake led MSU by 14 in the second half in Des Moines earlier this year...they have the ability to beat MSU.

So...if we win one of two...and WSU loses two this week...UNI would get the 5 seed? PTTB...can you confirm this?

[jegbomb52]

PtodaB doesn't need to confirm. jegbomb has done all of the leg work for you above, take a look!