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  • #1

    What has this become?

    We're still looking at what, our 4th season with 20+ wins in reach?

    I question a lot of what is going on. Why aren't we subbing more? What's the gameplan?, etc. But this is all much better than what I watched when I was groing up. I'm only 25 now. That should leave me 40-50 years of being a panther.

    We most likely will not make the NCAA tourney every single year. Some years we may not even make the NIT. Be proud of what this team accomplishes. Be proud of our new arena. Be proud that we're getting better attendance than ever. That is what will build this program.

    This team needs your support. We still have a minimum of 4 games left. This team has what it takes to win the MVC tourney. This season is far from over.
    Have fun. This is a game. I'm dissapointed in the way this run is gone, but imagine going back to watching the team in the Dome in front of 1,000 fans. That's the way it used to be.

    Support the team, win or lose. Be there for the seniors on the 24th and stop the endless whining. If you want to break down the games, break them down. It's fun. When you love basketball you love to talk about the little things. Don't let it become a bunch of babies arguing on the internet about it. Keep it as Panther Nation, not Panther Nation Group A and Panther Nation Group B. You can have you opinion without filling the message board with a bunch of crap no one wants to read.

    I miss being able to read this board to get good information. It seems like you have to read 25 posts to read a decent one.

    I hope most of you can cool down and enjoy the rest of the season. Sorry for the rant, but I had to make up for a lot of posting I've missed out on over the past few months. See you the 24th.
    Selling a lot of old UNI stuff here: http://www.panthernation.com/showthread.php?t=65762
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    Maybe a lot of u didn't notice this but with 2 games lef in the Valley Season...we're only 2 games out of last place as well.
    Career (3 sport) Coaching Record: 50-3
    the Future coach of the Depaul Blue Demons

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Rob Weiss View Post


      We most likely will not make the NCAA tourney every single year. Some years we may not even make the NIT. Be proud of what this team accomplishes. Be proud of our new arena. Be proud that we're getting better attendance than ever. That is what will build this program.





      Well put sir

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      • #4
        This has been discussed at lengths recently too. Just because people whine and complain on this board doesn't mean that they don't "support" the team.

        You say you miss being able to read this board and get good information. I just realized that this board has only really been functional while the basketball program has been in the NCAAs. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

        Point being, this board obviously is growing, sorry for some of you long time posters who have to get used to the newbies, and the board is now experiencing for the first time, a Panther basketball season that more than likely will not be continued on into the NCAA tournament. It's a tough pill to swallow for some younger fans who are used to this team winning. They expect more and honestly, I don't blame them.

        I love reading this board. I have for a while, I just recently decided to dive on in. Sorry if I've added to what you're complaining about, but I think there's been a lot of decent discussions going on as of late. It's surely been an interesting Panther basketball season with plenty to talk about. Sure there's been a lot of crap posted, I've probably posted my fair share, but that's what a message board is. And with interest in this team growing, I'm assuming interest in message boards like this will be growing.

        I too believe this team could make a run in St. Louis, if we can all get on the same page. And I too will be cheering on the seniors on the 24th, looking to close out our opening season in the McLeod with a win.

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        • #5
          Rob Weiss.....

          Very well put, nice post I agree with you 100%, It's a game, entertainment, a great source of enjoyment for me to watch and cheer for the Panthers. Should never be personel or a matter of life and death.

          Thank You for your Post

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          • #6
            Interesting discussion. At the risk of starting an argument that we have already had on this board I just want to make what I think is an important point. The young men that make up this team as well as their families and friends, read this board. We can argue 'til the cows come home whether they SHOULD read it, but they do. Some people get carried away with their comments and in fact get very personal. I edit my own thoughts when expressing my opinions by asking myself, "would I say this to their face?"

            I've gone off at times on this and other boards and I usually regret it later. Thses are young men doing their best to exceed our expectations. When they fail, they know why. There is nothing we know that they are not already aware of. What they need is continued support. Nothing frustrates me more than seeing the attendance go down when the losses go up. It's so easy to support a winning team, but that is not when they need us the most.

            No matter what happens between now and our final home game, I just hope these seniors come on to the floor against ILL State and find a packed arena to thank them for the thrills they have provided.

            PR
            You don't break out the Purple and Gold on game days or look for special gifts and gadgets bearing the colors because you want to be seen among the loyal. Purple and Gold aren't colors you see---they're colors you feel. They run through your veins with a continuous roar.

            Ya Gotta Believe

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            • #7
              Is it possible to support the players without supporting the coaching staff or their plans or the way they have implemented their plans? Or is it an all or nothing?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by re17282 View Post
                Is it possible to support the players without supporting the coaching staff or their plans or the way they have implemented their plans? Or is it an all or nothing?
                Your question suggests that questioning coaches decisions and plans is non-supportive. I don't agree with that. Anything posted here that would be asked of a coach if given the opportunity face to face is fair game in my opinion. But, "Coach can you explain why Jordon E is seeing so few minutes?", is a great deal different than "Coach, you've wasted Jordon's freshman year and you should have put a red shirt on him."

                I'll admit, some people prefer confrontation, I prefer diplomacy.


                PR
                You don't break out the Purple and Gold on game days or look for special gifts and gadgets bearing the colors because you want to be seen among the loyal. Purple and Gold aren't colors you see---they're colors you feel. They run through your veins with a continuous roar.

                Ya Gotta Believe

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                • #9
                  Well put PR. I have trouble seeing the difference from time to time too, but good examples.

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                  • #10
                    1. It is wrong to think that Jordan's freshman year has been wasted. Minutes played is not the only way to measure his development. He has worked every day in practice against two of the best post players in the league. What are you all advocating? Play JE more and Eric and Stout less? Of course you noticed that when JE was doing his good stuff offensively against the Bears, we had to play zone because he is not ready to defend smaller quicker guys like Coleman (which the league is full of). So, Ahern hits a three, and we have to come out of the zone....

                    2. We have struggled in the last month because of inexperienced guard play. The fact is that we lost three excellent guards last year:
                    Crawford: A gamer who can play anywhere from the point to the 4 spot.
                    BennyJ: A gamer who is explosive offensively and who became a defender and ball handler.
                    J-Litt: A fierce competitor, leader, and the glue of last year's team. Need him to guard the best player? Done. Need him to start for the injured Crawford? Fine. Need him to develop into a scorer on top of the other things? No problem.

                    We have attempted to replace those three with inexperienced guards--Adam V, Adam K, Kwadzo, Brown. They are not there yet, pure and simple.

                    3. Despite all of this, basketball remains a game of inches (I posted last week on the last minute shot at Wichita, SIU 2OT win at home, and Bucknell win at home and their impact on the season. If Brown's shot at SIU for the win had gone, we might not even be having this discussion. It might have generated so much momentum (and confidence) that things played out differently.

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                    • #11
                      PR, not that you need anyone to back you up, but thanks for your post.

                      I am as die hard a Panther as them come. I have found myself avoiding this board because of what I call some "worthless and destructive" commentary from people that 1. Have too much time on their hands and 2. In no way can call themselves true Panther fans. You'll see what I mean when the BS flies after this post. For those of you who will want a definition of a True Panther fan, I'll let you decide that for yourself. I know True Panther fans come in all shapes, sizes and levels of support. What a True Panther Fan is not, is one who makes consistant personal attacks and continued negative comments about your school.

                      Let me be clear, it is basketball, it is sports. I get as worked up and into a game as anyone. I get disappointed with the refs, the coaches and the players when things don't go our way. I get into the aame and yell as loud as I can. When it is all said and done we have to keep our perspective. We have a great school, a great athletic program and great kids. Isn't that what it is all about? A school, programs and people we can all rally around and be proud of.

                      I challenge anyone to spend 5 minutes listening to Chris Bucknam talk about the passion he has for UNI and not want to run through a wall for this school. Or spend 5 minutes with Coach Farley or Coach Jacobson or Tony D or Bobbi Petersen and not come away saying, wow, we have something special here at UNI. I challenge those who throw daggers on this board to join the Panther Scholarship Club, go to golf outings, attend events where our coaches are available, student athletes are available, get involved and see how good we have it at UNI.

                      I know I'll hear the "freedom of speech posts" and "I have the right to challenge anything I want" posts and for those people I echo PR's thoughts. Do not put anything on The Nation which you would not say to someone's face.

                      I am proud to be associated with and support UNI. I am proud to be a Panther with a win and proud to be a Panther with a loss.

                      For those who come on this board to stir the pot and spit out negativity, you are worrying too much about the pissants in the petunias, when the elephants are in the cabbage patch.
                      "This program is the most important thing. It was here before we were here, and it will be here after we leave. Right now, we represent this program and this university. We represent the community, we represent the state, and we will do everything that we can to put UNI football at the level we're proud of and always have been at this university. When I'm talking about this program, I'm talking about alumni. This place is important to them, just as it is to me." - Mark Farley, Football Coach

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                      • #12
                        Amen to that brother! Go Panthers!

                        Originally posted by UNIFITE View Post
                        PR, not that you need anyone to back you up, but thanks for your post.

                        I am as die hard a Panther as them come. I have found myself avoiding this board because of what I call some "worthless and destructive" commentary from people that 1. Have too much time on their hands and 2. In no way can call themselves true Panther fans. You'll see what I mean when the BS flies after this post. For those of you who will want a definition of a True Panther fan, I'll let you decide that for yourself. I know True Panther fans come in all shapes, sizes and levels of support. What a True Panther Fan is not, is one who makes consistant personal attacks and continued negative comments about your school.

                        Let me be clear, it is basketball, it is sports. I get as worked up and into a game as anyone. I get disappointed with the refs, the coaches and the players when things don't go our way. I get into the aame and yell as loud as I can. When it is all said and done we have to keep our perspective. We have a great school, a great athletic program and great kids. Isn't that what it is all about? A school, programs and people we can all rally around and be proud of.

                        I challenge anyone to spend 5 minutes listening to Chris Bucknam talk about the passion he has for UNI and not want to run through a wall for this school. Or spend 5 minutes with Coach Farley or Coach Jacobson or Tony D or Bobbi Petersen and not come away saying, wow, we have something special here at UNI. I challenge those who throw daggers on this board to join the Panther Scholarship Club, go to golf outings, attend events where our coaches are available, student athletes are available, get involved and see how good we have it at UNI.

                        I know I'll hear the "freedom of speech posts" and "I have the right to challenge anything I want" posts and for those people I echo PR's thoughts. Do not put anything on The Nation which you would not say to someone's face.

                        I am proud to be associated with and support UNI. I am proud to be a Panther with a win and proud to be a Panther with a loss.

                        For those who come on this board to stir the pot and spit out negativity, you are worrying too much about the pissants in the petunias, when the elephants are in the cabbage patch.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by UNIFITE View Post
                          PR, not that you need anyone to back you up, but thanks for your post.

                          I am as die hard a Panther as them come. I have found myself avoiding this board because of what I call some "worthless and destructive" commentary from people that 1. Have too much time on their hands and 2. In no way can call themselves true Panther fans. You'll see what I mean when the BS flies after this post. For those of you who will want a definition of a True Panther fan, I'll let you decide that for yourself. I know True Panther fans come in all shapes, sizes and levels of support. What a True Panther Fan is not, is one who makes consistant personal attacks and continued negative comments about your school.

                          Let me be clear, it is basketball, it is sports. I get as worked up and into a game as anyone. I get disappointed with the refs, the coaches and the players when things don't go our way. I get into the aame and yell as loud as I can. When it is all said and done we have to keep our perspective. We have a great school, a great athletic program and great kids. Isn't that what it is all about? A school, programs and people we can all rally around and be proud of.

                          I challenge anyone to spend 5 minutes listening to Chris Bucknam talk about the passion he has for UNI and not want to run through a wall for this school. Or spend 5 minutes with Coach Farley or Coach Jacobson or Tony D or Bobbi Petersen and not come away saying, wow, we have something special here at UNI. I challenge those who throw daggers on this board to join the Panther Scholarship Club, go to golf outings, attend events where our coaches are available, student athletes are available, get involved and see how good we have it at UNI.

                          I know I'll hear the "freedom of speech posts" and "I have the right to challenge anything I want" posts and for those people I echo PR's thoughts. Do not put anything on The Nation which you would not say to someone's face.

                          I am proud to be associated with and support UNI. I am proud to be a Panther with a win and proud to be a Panther with a loss.

                          For those who come on this board to stir the pot and spit out negativity, you are worrying too much about the pissants in the petunias, when the elephants are in the cabbage patch.
                          I couldn't have said it better!! I remember last year when I would come on here and feel that I would learn something new about the team or one of our players almost every time. Winning cures all, but I totally agree with your assesment of this board recently. I also remember those days of walking into the Dome five minutes before tip-off and getting a front row seat and do not ever want to go back to that...our program has come a long way and I look forward to what the future has in store! Go Panthers!

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                          • #14
                            Way to go UNIFITE!!

                            Unbelievable what you wrote on PantherNation. I completely agree with every word that you said and have heard from others that what you wrote hits the nail head on. I personally want to applaud all you do to help out UNI and the athletic program.

                            You let me know if you ever need any help with outings or other events.
                            GO PANTHERS!!

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                            • #15
                              I agree, UNIFITE!

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