PTTB's NIT-ology

[UNI MadCat]

You can't use what happened last year and compare it to this year. Last year was a completly different scenario. Being 21 in the RPI is a LOT different than being 37 or whatever they ended up.

I don't disagree that it sucks, but this is very far from unexpected. Like I have been saying all week long... yes they got the signature win they didnt get last year but they also lost games this year that they didnt last year.

We aren't comparing apples to apples here. The only common thing is the name on the jersey.

[Matt Trump]

Missouri State getting left out is bad for basketball. Texas Tech and Stanford got lucky, IMO. MoState should have been in before both. Better resume's...more wins...etc...

The Selection Committee told MSU last year, "go get a signature win"...they did this year. They had a top 40 RPI and a big win. They got screwed at SLU, and they got screwed today. I know that 'big wigs' had MSU out for a long time, but they had the best 'signature win' of the teams on the bubble. They only lost to 1 100+ team, and that was to Evansville (at E'ville), just 1 week after beating them by 52 points. It's rediculous, IMO.

I am going to disagree about Texas Tech as far as wins:

Wins: Air Force, UNLV, Bucknell, KANSAS, A&M twice, at Arkansas

[UNI MadCat]

Anybody have extra tickets for the CMH bracket?

Maybe I can try the Southern Illinois board?

Am I lame for not knowing what CMH means? ("yes!")

[D Panther]

I think the commitee did a terrible job. They really favered the the Big Media Confernces. I think the way that Billy Packer and CBs carried on last year about the non Big Media confernces last had an inpact this. How many people remember Packer getting Committee Chair Littlepage last year? Packer really drilled him over and over and didn't let it drop. I had a feeling the last few weeks that the non Big Media confernces would be left out when this year more should have made the Tournament. The Big Media Confernces were not very good after you got past the top 2 teams, where as the MVC was tough top to bottom.

[Jonsoup]

Am I lame for not knowing what CMH means? ("yes!")

Columbus, Ohio is what it means they use these letters when selecting your departure or arrival city when flying.

Sorry I thought everybody knew I live in BORING Columbus, Ohio.

[jman2004]

I cannot believe that Stanford got in. Horrible job by the committee in my opinion. Even the seedings and placements are all over the place. If Southern Illinois was in any other conference, they'd be a STRONG 3 seed, pushing for a two seed. Nevada as a 7 seed. Give me a break. But of course, the ACC got it's 7 teams in.

[williebat]

missouri valley went 5-4 vs. big ten this year.

big ten gets six bids and mvc gets 2.

gotta tell ya I would take bradley and mo state over purdue and illinois anyday.

This will change when some of these old f$#$s on the selction committee retire and younger ADs who are used to MVC winning get to make the calls.

[UNIAlum95]

missouri valley went 5-4 vs. big ten this year.

big ten gets six bids and mvc gets 2.

gotta tell ya I would take bradley and mo state over purdue and illinois anyday.

This will change when some of these old f$#$s on the selction committee retire and younger ADs who are used to MVC winning get to make the calls.

It will never change as long as the dollars flow to the big conferences. The mid major conferences will NEVER get a fair shake. Given a choice of the 6th team in a major conference or a third team in a mid-major, guess who will be picked. Yes every year there is a Syracuse that is left out. That gives them an out when the mid's complain. Of course if Syracuse played at least one non-conference game away from home, they'd probably be in too.

The "convenient" match up of four of the best mid-majors tells the story. They don't want to see another situation like last year when the top teams continue to fall to the mid's. I wonder how long it will be until we see another small conference AD as the chairman of the committee. Very disapointing that some of these middle of the road teams make it over teams like Drexel, MSU, and BU. Very disapointing bracket. However, I am not surprised to see the Valley play itself out of two bids. A very sad day for the Valley and I wonder what Doug Elgin is thinking...

[Khan4Cats]

This will change when some of these old f$#$s on the selction committee retire and younger ADs who are used to MVC winning get to make the calls.

Until the ratio of big 6 conference committee members to mid-major and smaller committee members changes to reflect the actually dispersal of conferences, the dispersal of bids and $$$ that goes with it will continue to favor the BcS schools.

As for the NIT, I can accept the decisions made by the committee. I think Akron maybe got hosed in favor of NC State or Fresno State, but the WAC is a good conference and since the NIT is on ESPN, I'm sure there was informal pressure to be able for them to continue their love-fest with the feel good 'resurgance' of NC State. At least they didn't put Iowa or LSU in.

[Panthers to the Bone]

I have no problem with NC State (see their resume at the top of this thread). I can't believe Akron didn't get in either...it sounds like the MAC sports info people are 'flabbergasted'.

http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2007/03/nit_snubs_akron_sends_toledo_t.html

I felt before that they did a great job of validating this tournament...it's going to make it more prestigious, but the problem is when you let teams like Akron get snubbed for Fresno State. I thought there were four spots left for 4 teams (with Akron in as a 'lock'). I guess I was wrong...UNI's resume was as good as any of those 'on the bubble'. That was probably the problem. It was left up to the committee. Compare UNI's resume to those that made it:

UNI (18-13)---83 RPI......................4 top 50 wins....78 SOS...5 top 100 R/N wins...8 R/N wins
Hofstra (21-9)---73 RPI...................3 top 50 wins...153 SOS...2 top 100 R/N wins...11 R/N wins
Providence (18-12)---76 RPI............2 top 50 wins....45 SOS...0 top 100 R/N wins...2 R/N wins
Fresno State (22-9)--88 RPI............3 top 50 wins....141 SOS...2 top 100 R/N wins...7 R/N wins

On to next season...

[Coachdags]

I have no problem with NC State (see their resume at the top of this thread). I can't believe Akron didn't get in either...it sounds like the MAC sports info people are 'flabbergasted'.

http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2007/03/nit_snubs_akron_sends_toledo_t.html

I felt before that they did a great job of validating this tournament...it's going to make it more prestigious, but the problem is when you let teams like Akron get snubbed for Fresno State. I thought there were four spots left for 4 teams (with Akron in as a 'lock'). I guess I was wrong...UNI's resume was as good as any of those 'on the bubble'. That was probably the problem. It was left up to the committee. Compare UNI's resume to those that made it:

UNI (18-13)---83 RPI......................4 top 50 wins....78 SOS...5 top 100 R/N wins...8 R/N wins
Hofstra (21-9)---73 RPI...................3 top 50 wins...153 SOS...2 top 100 R/N wins...11 R/N wins
Providence (18-12)---76 RPI............2 top 50 wins....45 SOS...0 top 100 R/N wins...2 R/N wins
Fresno State (22-9)--88 RPI............3 top 50 wins....141 SOS...2 top 100 R/N wins...7 R/N wins

On to next season...

Wining 3 out of our last 10...I believe was the difference...?

[Panthers to the Bone]

Those three teams went:
5-5
6-4
7-3

That may be one of the reasons...but should it be the only reason?

[Coachdags]

Those three teams went:
5-5
6-4
7-3

That may be one of the reasons...but should it be the only reason?

I agree...

Just got off the phone with "Jake" said the boys handled it ok (It Hurts) but he felt the last Ten was a Big factor...?

Should add he felt that maybe the 5 wins verus top 100 rpi on road hopefully would have out weighed the last ten....

[Panthers to the Bone]

You mean 5 top 100 RPI wins on the road? (not 5-0 vs. top 100 on the road)?

http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/stories/031107afd.html

[Coachdags]

You mean 5 top 100 RPI wins on the road? (not 5-0 vs. top 100 on the road)?

http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/...031107afd.html

Yes you are correct...

Thank You