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what if we labeled teams instead of conferences as mid major or major:
based on last 15 years iowa would be a mid major
based on last 15 years iowa would be a mid major
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Yea pretty sure Wisconsin is gonna take it all"I can accept failure, but i can't accept not trying."-Micheal Jordan
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YES! Seems like it's been forever since you agreed with me on anything Trump. Maybe you're finally coming around.Originally posted by Matt Trump View Post
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Uh oh, I don't want to be giving you a complex now...Originally posted by GonzoCat View PostYES! Seems like it's been forever since you agreed with me on anything Trump. Maybe you're finally coming around.
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Based on the last 15 years, UNI wouldn't be much of anything.Originally posted by williebat View PostUNI isn't exactly splitting atoms in terms of academics. -run&bladeComment
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So, should conferences and teams in those conferences be given seeds based on those conferences past tournament performances?
IMO, the reason why teams from the MVC and other non-BCS schools have not been able to reap similar success (in the last 10 years...in what I would define as the rebirth of the 'middies', based on the conference shuffling of teams), is the disparity in seedings. The MVC has been a league who has gone to the Sweet Sixteen 5-6 times in that 8-10 year period. Most of those times, it's been as a lower seed (larger numerical seed). Creighton, with a nice resume and 'nice numbers' gets a 10 seed? They are ranked 24th or 25 this week I believe. Duke, gets a higher NCAA tournament seed, than their conference tournament seed. (at this point I am ending my comparison of CU/Duke)
Obviously, there are some inconsistant intricacies that I would like to see improved upon, but I really don't care for teams who go out and try to make a strong schedule, win those games, play in a non-BCS conference, and then get snubbed for a less attractive resume', from a team in a BCS conference.
I'm not mad about it, I would just like to understand why this is the case.The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.Comment
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The Duke seed is the biggest travesty of this tournament. If the front of the shirt didn't say "DOOK" they would have been a bubble team, but because they are "DOOK" they get a 6. Absolutely inexcusable....Comment
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News is absolutely right. The best thing for this conference would have been for WSU to go 16-2 in the conference this year. They got alot of recognition for their run last year and were getting pretty high praise at the beginning of this year.Comment
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Doesn't WSU falling apart show the toughness of the league?? They went and beat Syracuse and others and could only muster an 8-10 record in the Valley.
I understand what you guys are saying, but it looks bad for any league if they have a team go through with only one or two losses, IMO. I would like to think that some year soon the Valley will finally get the respect we all know it deserves. The more we can continue to get on TV and do the right things, I would hope it will work out...Comment
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Somehow I doubt a team with an RPI of 15 and 8 top 50 wins would be on the bubble. Was I suprised that they got a 6? Yes, I would have guessed an 8. Duke is an easy target and everyone takes advantage of it at every opportunityOriginally posted by Brett Crawford View Post
As far as WSU is concerned, they started to fall apart before they ever got into the MVC. It didnt help that they lost at home to Appy State either.Comment
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Originally posted by Brett Crawford View Post
Actually, what happened to the Shockers really hurt the league.
In December, the whole basketball world was talking about WSU, and how tough the Valley was. When they fell apart, the "name" team for the league (this year) was off the radar, and it dragged us all down. From the outside, the view is "See, not so tough after all, huh?"
Fair? No, but it's the reality.
PTTB, I don't think I buy the "seed" thing.
If you're going to play into the last weekend of the year (and while Sweet 16's are a story, the Final Four is what gets real respect) you're going to have to beat the top seeds no matter what. It doesn't matter what order they come at you in, after the first round all that's left (usually) are pretty good teams.
If you're a 9, the difference between you and an 8 is nothing...you are the same rank of teams. If you're a 10, while that double digit number "looks" bad, you're only playing a 7...a team that you should reasonably be expected to "easily" play with, and that you should beat with some regularity. (Hell, being the 8/9 means a 1 seed next, being a 10 that wins means not seeing that top seed as quickly.) Even as an 11 or 12, you're going to have to beat a top 6 seeded team eventually anyway.
In my view, the top 3 or 4 seeds get the benefit of a relatively "easy" first round game, while everyone has to really play that first game...after that, it's just a scrum.Comment
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It hurt the perception of the league. It also hhurts that the teams WSU beat on the road were also not in the NCAA's. If Syracuse and LSU had finished strong in their respective conferences...it would have done a couple of things...showed that WSU could win on the court of other conference contenders and how strong the Valley must be for them to struggle in league when they beat up on other tough teams...but LSU and Syracuse had swoons as well."10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."Comment
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WSU was just bad timing. I wish Southern Illinois would've been getting that praise early on. Instead of hyping up WSU, maybe SIU could be looking at a 3 seed, or as far as Memphis is concerned even maybe a 2.Comment
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Article on SIU's tenure with Weber, Painter, and Lowery.The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.Comment
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Duke is OUT and I picked it!!!!!!Comment
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