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    No Palace For These Cinderellas

    By Eli Saslow
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Sunday, March 18, 2007; A01


    COLUMBUS, Ohio -- At about 6 p.m. on Wednesday, Southern Illinois University assistant basketball coach Brad Korn walked into the upper echelon of college basketball. Three doormen greeted his team at its swank hotel, The Columbus, before the first weekend of the NCAA tournament. Plush white couches sat on mahogany paneled wood in the lobby. Limestone columns framed the front desk.

    In his previous five trips to the tournament, Korn rarely enjoyed such luxuries. For the most part, he had arrived as a player or coach with lowly regarded Southern Illinois teams and stayed at lowly regarded hotels. In 2002, the NCAA assigned Korn's 11th-seeded Salukis to a hotel in Syracuse, N.Y., with moldy showers, unkempt beds and filthy curtains. The property was sold in a bankruptcy auction several months later.

    This year, Southern Illinois was seeded fourth -- and the lodging arrangements matched the team's elevated status.

    In the NCAA tournament, where you stand determines where you sleep at night: to the best teams go the best hotels. About three months ago, NCAA officials visited the eight cities hosting the first two rounds of the tournament, toured hotels and, with input from local host committees, ranked the facilities based on quality and location. The NCAA then assigned the best-seeded teams to the most prestigious hotels. In general, elite teams ended up at downtown Marriotts; small-conference underdogs sometimes settled for small historic hotels or airport area chains.

    In most cases, the difference between staying at the best and worst hotel creates nothing more than a dismissible imbalance, coaches and players said. But in the most extreme situations, the gap can exacerbate the disparity between a top-seeded powerhouse and a small-conference underdog in the tournament, which ends with the national championship game in Atlanta on April 2.

    "It's nice now to know how the other half lives," Korn said after a night in his team hotel, which was fresh off a $15 million renovation. "The elevators work, the showers are nice, the restaurant isn't going to make you sick -- all of that. In the past, we've had some disasters."

    During the tournament's opening days, some college teams arrived at the same first-round sites to drastically different circumstances. In Sacramento, the top-seeded team checked into a Sheraton while the lowest seed pulled up to a Holiday Inn. In Winston-Salem, N.C., Georgetown slept comfortably at the Marriott. Its first-round opponent, Belmont, stayed at a small, historic hotel with old, 19-inch televisions. "That will keep our mind on the games," said Belmont guard Andrew House, who added that the hotel felt more like a log cabin or a bed and breakfast.

    In Columbus, Southern Illinois and most other teams settled into towering downtown hotels within comfortable walking distance of Nationwide Arena. Meanwhile, 12th-seeded Long Beach State pulled up at a Marriott located 25 minutes away in Dublin. A few players asked coaches if the team had gotten lost.

    "Is Duke going to get a better hotel than Iona during the NCAA tournament? Yeah, probably," said Iona Coach Jeff Ruland, who has taken his team to three NCAA tournaments. "All you can ask for is an even playing field. And the truth is, sometimes you don't get it."

    The NCAA said it has long used seedings to determine hotel assignments, primarily for the sake of organization. By mandate, the top-seeded team in each highest-seeded, four-team pod stays at the best hotel. The top seed in the lower pod gets the next hotel, and so on. Eight teams must be accommodated in each of the eight host cities for the preliminary rounds.

    "In a perfect world, everything would be exactly the same for every team, but that's impossible," said L.J. Wright, one of the tournament directors. "Every property is going to be a little bit different, and we can't assign eight teams to the same hotel. There can be hits and misses, but we strive to provide eight excellent experiences."

    Teams are not required to stay at their assigned hotels, NCAA officials said, but switching requires a process so complicated it sometimes strikes players and coaches as impossible. A team must find someone else -- boosters, cheerleaders, band members -- to fill its allotted 50 to 75 rooms. Then it must find better, available accommodations in a hotel not already occupied by another team.

    Still, a handful of teams call the NCAA each year to request a last-minute move, tournament director Greg Shaheen said.

    "If they don't like where they're staying, we don't want them to be quiet about it," Shaheen said. "Hotels are one of the most important pieces of this whole event."

    Players and coaches identify an adequate hotel as the cornerstone to a successful NCAA tournament experience. Teams that reach the Final Four in Atlanta will spend as many as 15 nights on the road, relying on their hotels to provide all of college life's necessities. In preparing to host teams during the tournament, hotels set up makeshift classrooms for study halls and miniature theaters for game film sessions. Most hotels are responsible for preparing or catering pregame meals.

    During Korn's 2002 stay in Syracuse, the Salukis refused to eat food prepared inside what was then called Hotel Syracuse -- a deteriorating, circular tower in the underbelly of the city. Instead, Korn and his teammates asked if they could eat a pregame meal in a Syracuse University dining hall.

    Chris Lowery, Southern Illinois' current head coach who was an assistant coach in 2002, suffered an allergic reaction while at Hotel Syracuse. His face broke out in hives, and he missed a pregame practice. Doctors weren't sure what caused the reaction, but players blamed the food and cleanliness of their hotel.

    "There can be a gap between hotels number one and number eight when it comes to the details, but you try to prepare the hotels for what they're getting into," said Tim Allen, an associate commissioner for the Big 12 Conference who managed an NCAA tournament first-and-second-round site during each of the last six years. "We coach the staff at every hotel to do all the right things. These teams aren't just experiencing drop-by hotel stays. A lot goes into this."

    The hotel selection process for the 2007 tournament began almost four years ago, when cities bid to host the first and second rounds. Each chosen city established a host committee and designated a lodging coordinator.

    Some host cities struggled to find hotels that satisfied NCAA stipulations: Properties must be located within about a 15-minute drive of the arena and offer extensive meeting space and a full service restaurant, officials said.

    Until recently, the NCAA also required that each team stay in its own hotel. After complaints from coaches and players about the quality of the seventh- and eighth-best hotels in host cities, the NCAA changed its rules in the last few years, Shaheen said. Now, two teams are allowed to stay in the same hotel -- so long as they're thoroughly separated in the building and not immediately scheduled to play each other. Spokane, Wash., used five hotels this year; Winston-Salem used six.

    Anne Gordon, a Wake Forest employee, served as the lodging coordinator in Winston-Salem. She initially hoped to host one team at a luxurious Wingate, but she dropped it after discovering that its ceiling heights and meeting space fell short of NCAA specifications. She visited each of her six remaining properties almost once per month during the last year, and she did preliminary rankings of them. During the winter, two NCAA representatives flew into town for a final site visit. Gordon drove them to all six hotels in one day, and they toured each property.

    "They didn't change any of our rankings, so that was a success," Gordon said. "The challenge in this town was coming up with enough high-quality spaces for these teams."



    Sorry to post whole article- The Post had a link problem and this was just easier...

  • #2
    Thanks for posting. That's pretty interesting.

    I found another article...this time on Illinois basketball, their fans, their AD, etc...
    The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Panthers to the Bone View Post
      Thanks for posting. That's pretty interesting.

      I found another article...this time on Illinois basketball, their fans, their AD, etc...
      http://www.sportsline.com/collegebas...ory/10064832/1
      That was a very entertaining article...and probably very true. However, I thought it showed a lack of class on Doyel's part to rip a program in the manner in which he did.

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      • #4
        Man, Doyel had the gloves off in that article. And he landed a boat load of body shots on virtually everyone associated with Illinois hoops. You don't see a Big Ten AD called out like that very often. Or should I say...not often enough.
        Winning is more fun than losing.

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        • #5
          This guy is a twirp. What sucks about guys like Gregg Doyel is that they get this huge bully pulpit from which to spew their hatred of pretty much everything and everyone. They give sports "journalists" and "journalism" (in parentheses because I'm not sure his rants qualify) a really bad name. There is good sports journalism out there, if you look hard enough. Unfortunately, crab-a$$es like this hog up most of the space. Really, what was the point of this article? Honestly?? Its his opinion vs really no one and this article comes from virtually nowhere.

          Obviously, his pieces are designed to evoke a negative reaction, which only adds to his "fame". What is hilarious about this guy is that he is so full of himself that he doesn't realize that his pieces are a dime a dozen. After he wrote a particular rude piece about Wisconsin & Ohio State a couple of weeks ago (when he called Brian Butch a "big baby" for the tears on his face after fracturing his elbow) he appeared on two different Madison sports radio stations and flat out admitted he doesn't mean what he says most of the time, but he prides himself in knowing how to get a rise out of people. Newsflash Gregg... this doesn't make you as "cool" as you think. Within a year or two he'll cross the line and be fired and/or it will just get old and someone else will fill in right where he left off. It doesn't take a special skill to write trash like this guy.
          Last edited by UNI MadCat; 03-19-2007, 01:47 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Blue42 View Post
            Man, Doyel had the gloves off in that article. And he landed a boat load of body shots on virtually everyone associated with Illinois hoops. You don't see a Big Ten AD called out like that very often. Or should I say...not often enough.
            Lets really disect what we are talking about here. We are talking about it being perfectly fine to rip an AD to shreds for essentially doing what we all do in front of our TVs all of the time... being a FAN. Now, I understand, as someone who has sat on press row for numerous sporting events, there are definitely unwritten rules about how you should act and it appears (if you are to believe Doyel, who loves to exaggerate) that this AD was a bit over the top. But, honestly, aren't we all guilty of acting the same way? Does that mean we are bad people because we pound our fists and yell at the players? Not really. We probably shouldn't do it. But still... its part of being a fan. Yes, this AD probably should have sat somewhere else besides press row if he was going to act like that but to use those actions as the primary basis for the first half of this article's rant... I say "get over yourself" to Doyel.

            Doyel has too much time on his hands if this is the best he could come up with for an article topic.

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            • #7
              Wait a minute. I don't know Doyle from Joe Blow, but how do you know what went on? Maybe the guy was a complete DB. An AD should never be yelling at a coach or players telling them what to do during a game. You'd never see Hartzel doing something like that. If that is indeed what went on, I think it was great to call the guy out. Of course if he made stuff up he's open to a serious chewing by CBS and / or the NCAA.
              If computers ruled college basketball the way they do football, we'd have skipped all this March Madness monotony and just waited a month for the Kansas-Kentucky title game. And watched Northern Iowa play Cornell in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. ~ Dwight Perry The Seattle Times

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              • #8


                He doesn't just stop with the Illini...on to the south.
                The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.

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                • #9
                  What a hit piece. What's with sportswriter's HUGE egos. Just because they weren't good enough to play at a high level does not give them the right to write whatever they want. (See- Jay Mariotti)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Brett Crawford View Post
                    What a hit piece. What's with sportswriter's HUGE egos. Just because they weren't good enough to play at a high level does not give them the right to write whatever they want. (See- Jay Mariotti)
                    Actually, on very general terms, being alive and American gives them that right, athletic ability has nothing to do with it.

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                    • #11
                      Can I just say he's an egotistical jerk, then??

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Brett Crawford View Post
                        Can I just say he's an egotistical jerk, then??
                        No doubt about that.

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                        • #13
                          Funny thing this article showed up the Columbus Dispatch today on page 2 of the sports page.
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                          • #14
                            I'm not necessarily trying to defend Doyel for his rant, but I have no problem with him calling out Illinois' AD for his behavior.

                            If you're in an executive position and you're pulling that stuff in public, screaming at a kid that he's an idiot while sitting on press row, then you get what you deserve. If someone calls you out publicly, it's nobody's fault but your own.

                            You've got to expect more self control and awareness of the situation from someone in that position.
                            Winning is more fun than losing.

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