Iowa message boards

[Born-a-Panther]

Those who haven't already should check out www.hawkeyereport.com and go into their message boards... for the most part, there's a lot of very good things being said from their fans.

[troyvogel]

Yeah, I noticed that too! Pretty neat to see that, not really something I'd expect from Hawk fans. Guess they showed me!

[Jonny_Rogers]

Yeah, I noticed that too! Pretty neat to see that, not really something I'd expect from Hawk fans. Guess they showed me!

Only when idiots like you screw things up do Iowa fans get nasty.

[Marc Wigim]

Now come on... was that necessary?

[Jonny_Rogers]

Now come on... was that necessary?

Yes. It was.

[AmesPanther]

Yes. It was.

Shouldn't you be watching the Iowa game?

[Jonny_Rogers]

Shouldn't you be watching the Iowa game?

And your point is...?

[panther2317]

What do you mean Johnny?

How would fans like us "screw things up" for you? Do you mean if UNI had beaten Iowa? UNI could have beaten Iowa again this season, and UNI fans should be disappointed it didn't. Iowa fans should feel GREAT about a win over an intrastate rival. A rival that is getting better and will continue to get better in years to come.

I think you are in the group of Iowa fans who think Iowa should NEVER lose to a Missouri Valley Conference school. Well, NCAA basketball doesn't work that way anymore. There is a balance in division 1 basketball and parity will continue to grow making it harder and harder for the "big boys" to beat up on the "mid majors" in the future.

Get used to it.

[Marc Wigim]

Agreed. And it isn't just the MVC, either. Take a look at the WCC, who is also have problems scheduling quality OOC opponents. The Big Ten just needs to accept the fact that the MVC is now a talented conference.

[GonzoCat]

The current Sagarin ratings

Someone posted on the Iowa board because Iowa is up to 9th. UNI is at 14th, nice. The more interesting thing to me though was the conference rankings - MVC #3, Big Ten #4. I'm sure this will change as the year goes on, but with the performance by the MVC against all the "majors" in the OOC schedule I would expect the MVC to stay as one of the top 6-8 conferences all year and get at least 3 teams in the NCAA. It's getting hard to tell the majors from the mids.

1 ATLANTIC COAST
2 BIG 12
3 MISSOURI VALLEY
4 BIG TEN
5 SOUTHEASTERN
6 CONFERENCE USA
7 MID-AMERICAN
8 BIG EAST
9 PACIFIC-10
10 HORIZON

Sagarin Teams

Sagarin Conferences

[panther2317]

Where does "mid major" stop...

I know this is class warfare to a point, but it really burns me when UNI and the other Valley schools get lumped in with schools like Howard. During the Iowa State game yesterday, the announcer said, "Howard is a good mid major" team and will make some noise in their league, the MEAC."

I was peaved after hearing that statement. I don't think Howard is anywhere close to the level of Valley teams. I think they are a "low major". If you look at the RPI, they are at 227. That's in the lower 1/3 of all division 1 college basketball teams.

I know most fans of major schools would like to just have a tournament exclusive to them and call it a day, but I don't want the Valley cast with the MEAC's of the world either. How does the Valley change the perception???

Well...they do what they are doing now...win games vs. major conference schools and do it consistently. That's how Gonzaga is in the consciousness of college basketball gurus across the country...they didn't just do it one year...they've been doing it for about 7 years now. And since they are well-repsected by the media...the majors will schedule them. That's where we need to ascend as a conference...when someone mentions one of our schools...the media needs to say immediately..."Man, that's a tough league and they are really a quality opponent for everyone." Look at the WCC...Pepperdine, Pacific...they are getting attention as well...it all started with Gonzaga a few years ago...now it's filtering down to the other teams in the league. Hopefully, Creighton and SIU have gotten the ball rolling and UNI, WSU and SMS can carry the ball too...this should be fun!

[Marc Wigim]

The MVC as a conference stands as a premiere conference in the Midwest. I think it's to the point now where you can mention the MVC at least in the same sentence as the Big Ten and Big XII. Especially considering that the MVC has made some Big XII teams look foolish. I hope this trend continues, because it sure is a lot of fun making a splash.

[UNI Guy]

Not only is the MVC third in the rankings, but it is only 0.02 pts behind the Big 12, which is probably a statistical tie, and then it's a drop of nearly 1.5 pts to the Big 10.

The MVC over the last 5-7 years would have to be considered the best of the "mid majors". It always sends at least 2 teams the dance, and many years at least one will win a game or two, and make the sweet 16. Many years the MVC's record in the tournament is better than some of the major conferences.

[Jonny_Rogers]

How would fans like us "screw things up" for you? Do you mean if UNI had beaten Iowa? UNI could have beaten Iowa again this season, and UNI fans should be disappointed it didn't. Iowa fans should feel GREAT about a win over an intrastate rival. A rival that is getting better and will continue to get better in years to come.

I think you are in the group of Iowa fans who think Iowa should NEVER lose to a Missouri Valley Conference school. Well, NCAA basketball doesn't work that way anymore. There is a balance in division 1 basketball and parity will continue to grow making it harder and harder for the "big boys" to beat up on the "mid majors" in the future.

Get used to it.

You come close to setting a record for making the most incorrect assumptions in one post.

By screw things up, I was referring to the post earlier in this thread that ripped Iowa fans. Here I am, an Iowa fan on this basketball board, on which I have been very complimentary of Northern's program, and some moron lays into Iowa fans. My point was that I would only get nasty if that's the type of rhetoric prevalent on this board.

I also don't think Iowa is "above" losing to MVC teams. I'm not sure where that came from. Your entire post was based on an incorrect assumption.

My good friend Matt Reisetter would not stand for your ridiculous klaptrap.

[panther2317]

Johnny...

I'm sorry Johnny...but you haven't always been very complimentary about UNI's program. I respect your good friend Matt Reisetter as a great person, a huge Iowa fan and a supporter of UNI students. He may even cheer for UNI from time to time if they aren't playing Iowa.

I'm glad you've begun to see the light about UNI and the Valley. They are becoming a force in college basketball. This takes time, but they are laying the groundwork this season and it's very exciting.