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I don't get it. UNI trounces Iowa State by 18 (and it wasn't that close), and ISU receives a vote in both the coaches poll and the media poll, but UNI doesn't. Does any one know how these things work, because I sure don't?
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It could have been a vote from the Virginia coach
Probably is...
At this point ISU has beat a ranked team and UNI hasn't. I also think ISU gets a bit of a pass by a lot of national media for having a young team in it's first road game at UNI. They righted the ship at Iowa and played a close game. I noticed on SoundOff Andy said "if the game was in Hilton ISU wins".
UNI needs to do more than a Big 12 or Big 10 team to get the same recognition. It's coming just wait...
I personally try to ignore any polls or ratings in basketball until the middle of Jan. They just don't mean much until then. -
I understand all of that and I usually try to ignore them early in the season too, but if you don't start high enough in any rankings it is nearly impossible to move up very far because you have to leapfrog too many teams. Also, UNI would have probably beaten both Cincinnati and Iowa if they were in the Dome and one would think that Alford or Bob Huggins might give UNI a nod, maybe not Huggins, he is an a$$. Plus ISU's win over VA was in Hilton, if that was at VA, Virginia probably wins.
But that only explains the coaches poll, which I have always looked at with scepticism. What about the media poll, who in their right mind in the media would give ISU a vote over UNI?
I don't mean to harp about this, I'm only just venting here, but there never seems to be any rhyme or reason ever when it comes to the mid-majors and the rankings.Comment
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I agree put the Iowa or Cincy game in the Dome and UNI wins. Put ISU at Virginia and they lose.
I can see the Virginia coach and maybe even media voting for ISU.
I see zero chance the ISU, Iowa, or Cincy coaches voting for UNI. Even though they all should.Comment
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It comes down to the fact that UNI is only seen as being 4-2, with wins over Wayne St., Iowa St., UMKC, and Loyola. Most pollsters do not even check to see the scores or home/away status of games. The coaches poll is all coaches, and they don't have time to sit through and rank all 25 teams after going through the schedules of the top 100 teams in the country that deserve ranking consideration.
When the national media begins to throw the UNI and Mo Valley name out there, that is when pollsters begin to take notice and start doing some investigating. Once that takes place, UNI (if we keep winning) will start getting national recognition. Look at the mid-major poll for instance. We haven't even cracked the Top 25 in that, and we have done alot more than half the teams listed there. It's lack of understanding and people being uneducated about UNI. Recognition will come, we just have to keep winning and get some media buzz out there about us.The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.Comment
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Finally---National Props to MVC
AT LAST!!!! Did anyone else see Fran Franchilla on ESPN 2 Titled "Peaks among the Valley", he gave huge Props to the Valley calling it "first among mid-majors." He talked about UNI's win over Iowa State, taking Iowa to 3 points and 2OT with Cinci. He also mentioned Creighton, SIU, and WSU. It went pretty fast, so sorry if I left anyone out. One thing I did hear him say was, "Northern Iowa has one of the best guard courts in the country with Jacobsen and Crawford."You don't break out the Purple and Gold on game days or look for special gifts and gadgets bearing the colors because you want to be seen among the loyal. Purple and Gold aren't colors you see---they're colors you feel. They run through your veins with a continuous roar.
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I would agree on everything except the home/away. That is huge and they do look at that. If you read the line on games it's pretty obvious which team is at home.
A road win is worth much more than a home win. For a top 25 team home wins are just required; road wins are something that should happen most of the time.Comment
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I agree Ames. What I meant was that the pollsters don't recognize who we played tough on the road, until we start getting national exposure. Once that happens, then they will realize how strong UNI has played early this season. I totally agree though, once teams get media buzz and a higher profile, then they get props for winning on the road, etc...The Lord reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice, clouds and thick darkness surround Him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. Fire goes before Him, and consumes his foes on every side; His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles; the mountains melt like wax before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim His righteousness and all peoples will see His glory.Comment
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Right, they just see the loss on the road, not the fact that a bucket at the end could have sent the game to OT.Originally posted by Panthers to the Bone
It's all about the wins. Win some games this year, go to the big dance and people will notice.Comment
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