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I LOVE St. Louis as the setting for this tournament. I have friends that live there and it's nice to go back to the same places (and try new ones) every year. However...I would really like to see a rotating tournament for all of the reasons stated above and for another one...it brings more attention to Valley basketball in another television market. It would be nice if the KC area would embrace it like St. Louis has. It may create some Valley basketball fans in Kansas and Missouri. Also, I think PTTB is right about UNI alums. I think there are more in that area than in the St. Louis metro. I don't know how many are in the city proper...but I think there are more the last time I checked.
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I stand corrected. I just queried all of the surrounding counties and the Kansas City area has over 1200 UNI alumni members listed in the online directory compared to just under 600 members in the St. Louis area. Johnson County, Kansas alone has over 500 UNI alumni members...
I still hope the MVC tourney remains in St. Louis only because I live 30 minutes from downtown...
Originally posted by kcpanther99 View PostComment
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No worries on taking issue with my statement. That's what message boards allow...debate! The reason why I stated what I did regarding there being way more alums in KC than STL is that in a correspondence with the alumni office I was informed that KC was one of the larger alumni bases, and STL wasn't listed. Plus, I hear often of UNI alums going to KC area (mainly the KS side of KC), but seldom do I hear of them going to STL.
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The bottom line is UNI would have at least double the attendance, which makes me in favor of a rotating tournament location or to switch to KC permanently. The fan base which would see the most improvement would be the students. At St. Louis this year there was maybe 100 students. I bet at KC there would be more than 500 students.Originally posted by TH1974Comment
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Why do you think there would be such an improvement Kyle? Isn't it almost the same distance from CF to KC or STL?
It seemed like there were more than 100 students partying in the room next door to ours all night Fri and Sat in STL.
Said the grumpy old man.
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Why would student attendance increase just because the MVC Tournament moved to KC?Originally posted by Kyle View PostComment
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Do you think it could ever come to Des Moines? For the Panthers I hope so, but for my self selfishly I hope not. It would be great for the Panthers and Drake, but it would take the fun out of it for me.Sincerely,
The Future AD of the University of Northern IowaComment
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Where in DM would you play the tournament? Keep in mind that as it is currently scheduled, the MVC tourney falls on the same weekend as the Iowa Boys State Basketball tounament and I doubt that Wells Fargo Arena would be available.Originally posted by joecooll6 View Post"They keep saying that what really matters is not whether you win or lose, but how you played the game. The trouble is that the best way to determine how you played the game is by whether you won or lost." - AnonymousComment
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Reasons student attendance would increase:
1) KC is a hour closer than St L from Cedar Falls
2) A large student base lives in Des Moines, which is 3 hours closer to KC than St. Louis (some make the tournament a family affair).
3) Students do things in groups, not individually, so there will be an expotential growth. Attendance increase will have a compounding affect.
4) Students are busy and poor. KC is closer and overall less costly than St. Louis.Originally posted by TH1974Comment
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I was busy in college too...but found the time to go to St. Louis on a WEEKEND to watch UNI play. It's a part of the college experience whether it's in St. Louis or KC. I hope more students experience Arch Madness live and in person."10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."Comment
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I dont think thats right. Im pretty sure the girls tournament is the week after the MVC Tourney and the boys is the week after that. Unless they recently moved the boys tourney up two weeks from where its been in the past that wouldnt be a problem.Originally posted by Big Cats View Post
I remember when UNI won the MVC tourney 4 years ago, I was a junior in high school and watched my school (Johnston) win a substate semifinal against Hoover on Friday, then went to St. Louis and watched the Panthers beat Illinois State on Saturday, Wichita State on Sunday and Mo State on Monday, and then watched Johnston beat Dowling to go to state on Tuesday. Best 5-day sports span in my life.Sincerely,
The Future AD of the University of Northern IowaComment
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Im also a student, and I go every year with my dad as its a tradition we started well before I went to college. But, very, very few of my friends go, and I really dont see them changing their tune if its in KC quite honestly. The ones that are willing to go are already going IMO.
As far as it being in DM, Ive just heard its been talked about on local radio a little bit. I dont know how DM could possibly get it if KC is having a hard time though. Just something to talk about I guess.Sincerely,
The Future AD of the University of Northern IowaComment
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That is correct, but the MVC Tourney weekend has changed since to accomodate CBS' broadcast of the championship game. The tournament is now played a week earlier and has been for a few years now.
Originally posted by joecooll6 View PostComment
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The IHSAA has indicated a willingness to adjust the state tourney schedule to accomadate an NCAA regional bid. I assume they'd do that for an MVC tourney also.
Having said that I think a snowball has a better chance you know where than DSM has of hosting the MVC tourney.GO PANTHERS!Comment
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