And the Openings Begin

[UNIPNTHR]

Re: Coaching Changes

I think Ocach Farley is one of the few oldtimer guy that has a true allegence to "his school" and likes it in Cedar Falls, at UNI and in the FCS.

Not to be a complete Negative Nancy... but these are the same things several people, myself included, said about McDermott.

[Big_Al]

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More like $150k.

Still, nothing to sneeze at. He deserves a raise, if you ask me. And the UNI administration would be wise to give hime one. Not a million or whatever, but enough to let him know he's appreciated and that they want him around for a long, long time.

I believe I read earlier this season that Farley enjoys FCS football because he feels anyone can be competitive and that's what fires him up -- the fact that he can go to work every day knowing he's got a shot at it all. I see him getting that at very, very few FBS schools.

In a similar vein, Of all the schools that have made the leap from FCS to FBS, I wonder how many of them now regret it? Why go from a division where you're competitive and have a shot at it all to FBS where you have to fight the big-money teams like OSU or pretty much any team from Florida (Man, I hate football in that state!)? WKU and Marshall don't look to be having too good of a time in the "lower-tier" of the FBS.

[Big_Al]

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Not to be a complete Negative Nancy... but these are the same things several people, myself included, said about McDermott.

Yeah, but basketball sucks. ;D

[Herdman]

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Not to be a complete Negative Nancy... but these are the same things several people, myself included, said about McDermott.

Probably true, but I don't think Coach Farley and Coach Mac are not cut from the cloth. I see Coach Farley as one of those guy who at 40 comes across like he's or 65-70. He just seems a lot wiser and more down to earth than even Coach mac did. Not to be a know it all, but I always thought Coach Mac would leave some day and that's okay, I don't hold it against him.

[Marc Wigim]

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There's also this thing about FBS vs. FCS mentality. It's very, very rare to have an FCS coach be successful at the FBS level. Tressel is a glaring exception, but for the most part FBS teams hire from within their own ranks, usually nabbing an assistant from a fellow school of that subdivision.

Terry Allen was the one I believe who said (if he wasn't, someone correct me) that the biggest good FCS coaches have to be good recruiters and excellent coaches. Good FBS coaches have to be good coaches and excellent recruiters. There's a pretty big difference in mentality, in my opinion.

[caagman]

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Probably true, but I don't think Coach Farley and Coach Mac are cut from the cloth. I see Coach Farley as one of those guy who at 40 comes across like he's or 65-70. He just seems a lot wiser and more down to earth than even Coach mac did. Not to be a know it all, but I always thought Coach Mac would leave some day and that's okay, I don't hold it against him.

I think we all knew Mcdermott would leave for a "bigger, better" program. So why then did he leave for ISU? That, to me, is unforgivable. I say we reovke his alumni status.

[Herdman]

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There's also this thing about FBS vs. FCS mentality. It's very, very rare to have an FCS coach be successful at the FBS level. Tressel is a glaring exception, but for the most part FBS teams hire from within their own ranks, usually nabbing an assistant from a fellow school of that subdivision.

Terry Allen was the one I believe who said (if he wasn't, someone correct me) that the biggest good FCS coaches have to be good recruiters and excellent coaches. Good FBS coaches have to be good coaches and excellent recruiters. There's a pretty big difference in mentality, in my opinion.

That makes sense.

[Herdman]

And the Openings Begin

Southern Miss
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Washington State
Duke
Georgia Tech
SMU
Nebraska
Texas A&M
Michigan

Are any of these or the ones to come, interesting to FCS coaches?

I hope Jeff Bower gets the Ole Miss job.

[Herdman]

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What was the disconnect between Coach Nut and the Arkansas athletic office that made him leave? Word was before the LSU game he was out the door and then after the win he was offered a two year extention and that wasn't enough to keep him.

Any one else hear that he is headed to Ole Miss?

[Marc Wigim]

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Southern Miss
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Washington State
Duke
Georgia Tech
SMU
Nebraska

I have marked the ones I believe to be complete coaching graveyards in bold. Discuss.

[SA4UNI]

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Also Texas A&M

[Marc Wigim]

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Oh yeah!

I don't think that's a coaching graveyard. As a matter of fact, how is it possible to be as bad as Franchione was?

[Herdman]

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From what I read TxA&M was happy with him, but was very unhappy with an unapproved newletter he was sending to alum and supporters. But I think you're right Marc, he should have won more games and recruited much better than he did.

[SA4UNI]

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Well it's not the ability of the coach that kills them, its the combination of how good those Tea-Sips do in Austin, and when the good-ole-boy Alumni in College Station get tired of hearing about it.

[panthertrack]

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I have marked the ones I believe to be complete coaching graveyards in bold. Discuss.

I disagree on Ole Miss. They have the money and facilities to become a powerhouse, they just need the right guy in there.