And the Openings Begin

[ubuntuCAT]

Re: Coaching Changes

I am not convinced ISU can either. Especially if Chizik is unable to turn the program. That is the key due to all of the facilites improvements that they are taking on...

He is already making $700,000 base pay (not including bonuses or other income) and gets an automatic $50,000 raise per year. I'm pretty sure if he wins they can put him in the 7 figure range.

[Herdman]

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Mitch Mustain. ArKANSANS being crazy. Frank Broyles being Frank Broyles. There's a reason Dana Altman didn't stay very long.

Yeah, it's hard to hide a team wide drug issue.

[Matt Trump]

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Yeah, it's hard to hide a team wide drug issue.

Find me a major college basketball team without a team wide drug issue...

[UNIAlum95]

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Personally, I'd be really surprised if he left. What's he making right now? $350k?

Not quite. His 2007 salary is $165K.

http://data.desmoinesregister.com/re...talSalaryFY05+

[AmesPanther]

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With all due respect Ames...

I think they would be in the same place with Lucca. He would still be adjusting to the college game. I think the biggest thing that hurt ISU was losing McIntosh because he hated Mike Taylor. Mac went with Taylor and ended up losing them both...

He would have been challenging for an upper half finish if he could have kept McIntosh and Dunson...IMO... However, without those two he is going to struggle to win 13-15 games...

I don't know about that. McIntosh didn't have the body or shooting. He did well with ball control and that's it. Diante is already as good and has a lot longer wingspan.

Dunson is missed, but that's just something no one could fix.

This year with Wes at the 2 and Brackins at 4 where Wes was last year is a much better situation.

[BCPanther]

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No matter how you slice it, I think tomorrow night is going to be real interesting.

[Herdman]

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He is already making $700,000 base pay (not including bonuses or other income) and gets an automatic $50,000 raise per year. I'm pretty sure if he wins they can put him in the 7 figure range.

Not quite. His 2007 salary is $165K.

http://data.desmoinesregister.com/re...talSalaryFY05+

That's a big swing fellas. Which is it?

[Kyle]

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That's a big swing fellas. Which is it?

$675,000

http://data.desmoinesregister.com/results/index.php?info=State_Salaries&page=0&sort=&desc=&FiscalYear=2007&Name=mcdermott&Department=Iowa+State+University&County=

[GatewayFB]

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Exactly. Farley was at Kansas during that time with TA. Salmon was fired from there as well. These people know what its like at a lower level FCS program (at the time) where football is #2.

Umm....how is the Kansas football program doing these days?


I think all the people here that think there is more glory coaching UNI football than at a BCS school are fooling themselves. If a school like UCLA, Oklahoma State or South Carolina (or similar level programs) came calling for Coach Farley, he would be all ears.

I also wonder why people do not think Coach Farley is capable of thinking of his future and planning for a football game at the same time? You make him sound like he can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

[Matt Trump]

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Umm....how is the Kansas football program doing these days?


I think all the people here that think there is more glory coaching UNI football than at a BCS school are fooling themselves. If a school like UCLA, Oklahoma State or South Carolina (or similar level programs) came calling for Coach Farley, he would be all ears.

I also wonder why people do not think Coach Farley is capable of thinking of his future and planning for a football game at the same time? You make him sound like he can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

Did you read any of my post Luther?

BTW. Kansas was going to can bf Mangino if he didn't have this kind of season. They've been strattling .500 or below forever.

I don't think people think Farley is incapable. He's just already been at a position at the kind of school who would go after him. This is what has been stated several times.

[Big_Al]

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Mangino had to make several enemies inside Kansas athletics to get the football program where it's at, as well. He's had to fight tooth and nail for improvements because football is always second to basketball, regardless of what line the AD feeds their fans. Kansans will now forgive him for a few years, but remember in the FBS it's all about "what have you done for me lately".

No, there isn't more glory at UNI but there isn't the same pressure, either. Big-time FBS schools like to pretend they have more tradition or whatever, but what they really have is more money and expectations.

[Big_Al]

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And UNI was his 'Dream Job', his words.

Basketball is a very different animal, coaching-wise, from football. There, if you can recruit one great player and coach a good supporting cast you can make it to the tourney and even advance a round or two.

The disparity between the haves and have-nots in football is much greater. Taking a non-FBS power and turning it into contender year in and year out is a couple orders of magnitude harder than turning around a basketball program.

That said, all three state universities in Iowa are good places to coach basketball. Just ask Tom Davis, Johnny Orr or Eldon Miller.

[ubuntuCAT]

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That's a big swing fellas. Which is it?

the $165K was Farley's salary. McDermott was Hired on at $650,000. He got his first 50K raise in July to put him at $700,000

You can view the entire contract of all State coaches here

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pb...egory=watchdog

[NorthernIowaBacker]

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BTW. Kansas was going to can bf Mangino if he didn't have this kind of season.

Trump, please refer to him as Mangello.

[GatewayFB]

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Trump - I was not meaning Coach Farley could not coach at a higher level...I meant that for the people here who think Coach Farley must focus on the game this weekend only and doesn't have time to consider another coaching position.

I do not know much about Kansas football. I suspect similar to Iowa State. It is hard to recruit talent to go to school in places like Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, etc without a history of success. I think the success of the basketball teams do not have as much to do with it as perhaps weather. I've talked with qute a few ex-USC players and asked them about recruiting. When I ask them why a top QB or running back would go to USC or UCLA over Iowa (and be a star versus on the bench with ten other top recruits) their response is always the same..."but then they would be in Iowa".