Football Season ticket prices

[MGLD Panther]

Re: Football Season ticket prices

With out economy, fuel and food prices, it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with "stage in life." Many families that are both successful and responsible are counting every dollar right now.

Newsbreaker, it has come to the point that EVERY time you post this is what I read: "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah....." Do you need to tell us how to spend every dollar? Quit trying to crush our $130 DI deal.

You also seem to be an expert on pricing. How much should I pay for toothpaste? Keep in mind, I will use your response on a future Comedy Central show.

[TravelingPanther]

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Message of the thread:

If you don't buy season tickets you are not a fan, you never were, and you never will be! Only true fans buy season tickets!

I didn't get that. I got that people were trying to discuss the pros and cons of season tickets and reasoning with people excuses not to buy them.

[Newsbreaker]

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I didn't get that. I got that people were trying to discuss the pros and cons of season tickets and reasoning with people excuses not to buy them.

Go read mudra's post again. He directly said that if a person couldn't afford the increase, they were never a fan to begin with. Such outright ignorance should be attacked and revolted by anyone who doesn't have their head lodged halfway up their large intestine. Being able to afford a price increase, in a day of substantial price increases in every facet of life has nothing to do with how big a "fan" you are.

MGLD, in the midst of his own "hey look at this, oops you caught me, I was trying to profit personally" game can't stand someone pointing out that any price increase, especially in light of our economy, is going to price at least some people out of the building.

The rational response is that our athletic department has to find ways to bring in more money. Anyone who has spent 90 seconds in a basic economics course knows that raising prices might do that, or it might not. There are variables, and it's a calculated risk. In any case, the most important ten dollars in the world is the first ten dollars you don't have, and this increase will fall into that category for at least SOME of our fans. At least a few will be priced right into their recliner on gameday by this decision. It very well may be necessary, may lead to increased revenues, and therefore longterm health for the department, but that doesn't make it wrong to point out this undeniable effect. It also doesn't make the long-time Panther fan who has to decide to stay home now less than you.

This, of course, is having an alternate opinion to some, which means I'm not being pant-tent high and marching off with an "everything we do smells like roses and has no negatives" attitude, so it's no more substantial than "blah blah blah."

[TravelingPanther]

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Well, I hope that people realize the Panther football is worth supporting, maybe more so than having a text package on their phone, cable tv, etc.

[clenz]

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I didn't get that. I got that people were trying to discuss the pros and cons of season tickets and reasoning with people excuses not to buy them.

I believe I've read almost word for word what I said the message of this thread was once if not twice on this thread. I wasn't trying to make any outlandish remarks. Just simply restating what I had read.

However, I realize I'm just a dumb college student who doesn't understand the value of a dollar right? I mean heck, every college student has every single penny of student loan debt in their name while recieving the occasional 40 dollars for gas. That is when they decide to go home, which if any other college student is like me, that 80 dollars for gas I've gotten since August 8 has really been worth those two trips home since that day.

Maybe by the time I graduate from UNI with of $70,000 debt to my name, instead of this measly $35,000 I have now I'll even more greatly appreciate the dollar that I don't have, and then maybe I'll realize that the $130, however great of a bargin that is, could be better spent paying off some of that $70,000 dollars, or maybe put towards my honeymoon, a cell phone bill, an engagement ring bill, rent or a house payment, a car payment (because lord known my 1992 Ford Tempo won't last forever). But that is all shaninigans, a true Panther fan would buck up and pay that $130 dollars, plus gas, food, and lodging and make that trip to CF 5 or 6 weekends in the fall, no matter where they live. I guess I will never truly be a Panther fan. I will just always be that second rate UNI fan who went to UNI and went to every home football and basketball game in his time there, went to the plays put on by the UNI drama department, and other UNI events.

[clenz]

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Mudra,
Since you are one of the best UNI Panther fans ever let me ask you this question. How many UNI Drama productions have you been to in the 2 or 3 years? I've been to 2 this year. How many womens rugby games have you been to this year? I've been to 4 and if I can get off work in time 5 this weekend. Mind you those rugby games are free to get into, so even I can go to those. Are you giong to go to the Rugby game before the spring game this week? Part of me says "No, he won't go, but dangit he will be there bright and early to tailgate for the spring football game!", however now part of me is going "He will be there just so he can hold that over the rest of our heads too. I'm not trying to say I'm a better fan than you are because I might have been to more plays or rugby games this year. I don't think you can pit one fan hood against another.

Just because you have season tickets for football and basketball doesn't make you a better fan than one who doesn't. Would you pay $130 for a year pass to the concerts and plays on campus? I'm willing to bet no. However, those aren't sports so one can't truly be a fan of them can they?

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Yes, I realize I'm ranting and that I'm likely to get ripped for at least 5 statements I have made but I'm sick of this fan heirarchy bull**** that some, like mudra, pull. The two main reasons I'm down here had nothing to do with UNI actually being UNI sports. You don't have to have season tickets to be a fan. Heck, not buying season tickets and paying for them on a game by game basis is being more of a true fan. You are then giving 10 extra dollars to the athletic department that season ticket holders aren't doing. Take that holier than thou because I have season tickets you and you don't bullsh!t. I'm willing to bet I ended up giving more in ticket sales during baskeball and football tthis past year than you did. Thus, I'm a bigger fan by your logic right?

[TravelingPanther]

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I'm not sure if you think I am directly responding to you, but I'm just making general statements. Someone who is a student in a different town with all those different situations, isn't the same as joe schmo from cedar falls who doesn't want to come up with a couple more dollars.

I believe I've read almost word for word what I said the message of this thread was once if not twice on this thread. I wasn't trying to make any outlandish remarks. Just simply restating what I had read.

However, I realize I'm just a dumb college student who doesn't understand the value of a dollar right? I mean heck, every college student has every single penny of student loan debt in their name while recieving the occasional 40 dollars for gas. That is when they decide to go home, which if any other college student is like me, that 80 dollars for gas I've gotten since August 8 has really been worth those two trips home since that day.

Maybe by the time I graduate from UNI with of $70,000 debt to my name, instead of this measly $35,000 I have now I'll even more greatly appreciate the dollar that I don't have, and then maybe I'll realize that the $130, however great of a bargin that is, could be better spent paying off some of that $70,000 dollars, or maybe put towards my honeymoon, a cell phone bill, an engagement ring bill, rent or a house payment, a car payment (because lord known my 1992 Ford Tempo won't last forever). But that is all shaninigans, a true Panther fan would buck up and pay that $130 dollars, plus gas, food, and lodging and make that trip to CF 5 or 6 weekends in the fall, no matter where they live. I guess I will never truly be a Panther fan. I will just always be that second rate UNI fan who went to UNI and went to every home football and basketball game in his time there, went to the plays put on by the UNI drama department, and other UNI events.

[clenz]

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I'm not sure if you think I am directly responding to you, but I'm just making general statements. Someone who is a student in a different town with all those different situations, isn't the same as joe schmo from cedar falls who doesn't want to come up with a couple more dollars.

And I would agree that if a person lived in the Cedar Valley, and had the money to do so, then yes $120 or $130 is an amazing deal, there is no way to deny that. But there are a lot of situations that come up that make season tickets unrealistic for a lot of people.

My rant wasnt' so much directed at you, or even this issue for that matter. This goes all the way back to those I'm a better Panther fan because I go to the basketball games and have season tickets there, and even the time I was told something a long the lines of "Your opinion doesn't matter you haven't been a Panther fan long enough." I then asked how long I had to be a fan to be allowed to have an opinion, I was then told 20 years, which is how long I've been alive.

As a fanbase I would love to think that we are above Iowa, Iowa St., and Drake for not having the dumbasses that they do, but it is quite obvious that per capita we are right up there. I'm sick of these older people thinking they are more entitled to things because they have football season tickets. When the hell does one sport make a college a college. I know plenty of schools who don't have football, or one prominant team, and they are still a great school. How about focusing on an aspect of the college that isn't sports related. Like I've brought up, the drama or music departments. I know they won't/don't bring the revinue of a football, but UNI would still be UNI without a football or basketball program, as hard as that might be for some people to believe.

[clenz]

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http://www.stubhub.com/michigan-football-tickets/

there is a link to Michigan season and game tickets for this year. That link shows how good of a deal season tickets for UNI is. One game at Michigan Stadium, in the cheap seats for Utah will go for more than season tickets at UNI would do. However, season tickets for the bad seats are also $825. If I was as good of a fan as Mudra I would come up with that money right?

[Newsbreaker]

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Someone who is a student in a different town with all those different situations, isn't the same as joe schmo from cedar falls who doesn't want to come up with a couple more dollars.

You're being very, very presumptive. You don't know what "Joe Schmo's" bank account or personal finances look like. People are losing their homes in droves, but "Joe Schmo" will certainly come up with a few more dollars.

[Panther789]

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I apoligize if this has been answered already. There have been a few numbers thrown out, but some of them have been contradicted.

How much did the price of season tickets go up?

[clenz]

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I don't know what it was last year but I believe it is $25 a ticket give or take a dollar

[Whitey81]

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The tickets are $120 this year. They would be $130 if you bought each game individually.

If they are $120 this year, how much were they last year?

I've read where the increase may cause some to go without season tix this year. It may do that. I don't believe very many though. If $10 (est) increase is too much to bear, they probably couldn't afford the previous amount either. For those that had season tickets last year, I do not believe it is much of an issue.

[Whitey81]

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You're being very, very presumptive. You don't know what "Joe Schmo's" bank account or personal finances look like. People are losing their homes in droves, but "Joe Schmo" will certainly come up with a few more dollars.

Wow, nice stretch. Equating UNI season tickets to mortgage foreclosure. Interesting comparison.

I too, believe it is a shame that there are so many foreclosures recently across the country. On the other hand, the driving force behind this trend is the subprime lending habits of lenders.
Definition: A subprime mortgage is granted to borrowers whose credit history is not sufficient to get a conventional mortgage. To me this is a "higher" risk loan(you can also read it as a "gamble")
Examples: Homeowners with subprime mortgages are most likely to default when the housing market declines.
Big trend in subprime mortgages + housing market goes down = foreclosures go up.

Please don't campare a $10 increase in UNI tix to subprime foreclosures. It's like comparing apples and hammers

[Newsbreaker]

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Wow, nice stretch. Equating UNI season tickets to mortgage foreclosure. Interesting comparison.

I too, believe it is a shame that there are so many foreclosures recently across the country. On the other hand, the driving force behind this trend is the subprime lending habits of lenders.
Definition: A subprime mortgage is granted to borrowers whose credit history is not sufficient to get a conventional mortgage. To me this is a "higher" risk loan(you can also read it as a "gamble")
Examples: Homeowners with subprime mortgages are most likely to default when the housing market declines.
Big trend in subprime mortgages + housing market goes down = foreclosures go up.

Please don't campare a $10 increase in UNI tix to subprime foreclosures. It's like comparing apples and hammers

My lord, you can in fact read, right?

I'm stating that people are in strapped for case because of the mortgage crisis, not that rising ticket prices are related to the crisis. It wasn't a comparison, it was factors impacting spending habits.