Bates?

[jegbomb52]

Re: Bates?

I can't say I agree with you at all Jeg. I won't rip into you or anything like that, but I can't say I agree with you at all.

I really appreciate you dignified response to my answer. Thank you.

I'm wondering why you don't agree with me though after looking at your signature. Again, remember I am not saying that we are not better off in December with Pat at the helm. I am simply saying we are 5-1 right now. Thanks again, I wish we had more people like you on the board clenz, including myself.

[jegbomb52]

Re: Bates?

I hear that the tree's of Indiana State are looking for a QB!

[clenz]

Re: Bates?

I really appreciate you dignified response to my answer. Thank you.

I'm wondering why you don't agree with me though after looking at your signature. Again, remember I am not saying that we are not better off in December with Pat at the helm. I am simply saying we are 5-1 right now. Thanks again, I wish we had more people like you on the board clenz, including myself.

Bates, while he might have a more accurate arm, doesn't make the plays that Grace has. A large reason we are winning games this year is because Grace can tuck and run. Not just run, but run linebackers over, just ask #49 from NSU. I don't think Bates would run the offense as well as Patty does.

I'm not entirely sure how to explain it, but there is just something about Grace that I really really like and wouldn't trade right now.

I also don't think with Bates we win that SIU game if we played it the same way. Too many things went for SIU that game.

I would love to have Bates on the team for this athleticism, but I don't think he would be the best QB for what we do.

[MediaPanther]

Re: Bates?

I really appreciate you dignified response to my answer. Thank you.

I'm wondering why you don't agree with me though after looking at your signature. Again, remember I am not saying that we are not better off in December with Pat at the helm. I am simply saying we are 5-1 right now. Thanks again, I wish we had more people like you on the board clenz, including myself.

I'm just a little curious why you think we'd be 5-1 with Bates? He hasn't really had a chance to prove anything on the field. What is it about him that would have given us a better record?

[FerociousCat]

Re: Bates?

Hard to say that Bates wouldn't have gone through the same "growing pains" as Grace at this point...
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
Bates,Phillip 5 24 192 26 166 6.9 0 56 33.2
PASSING GP Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
Bates,Phillip 5 112.95 11-24-1 45.8 137 2 27 27.4
Most of his stats coming against SDSU & mighty Kent St...of the stats roughly 30 yards passing & 30 rushing came against Iowa & UNLV. He didn't play against KU.

Could also say we'd be 5-1 for a million different reasons...KO team, KR team not clipping, posting of the "Flying Saluki Dogs that eat small children" thread earlier in the week
IMO Grace has improved & I hope that continues the rest of the way. I do wish he'd run out of bounds or slide sometimes, but it is awesome to see him run over defenders.

[PurpleCatFan]

Re: Bates?

If Bates did come to UNI wouldn't he then use his red-shirt next year, when Grace is a senior, giving him two years of elgibility remaining (Grace gone) to compete for the starting QB job?

[06panther10]

Re: Bates?

I think the Corey Lewis fumble is what cost us the SIU game. With that said, we might not be in a position to win that game without him either.

I think Pat is a better QB.

[clenz]

Re: Bates?

If Bates did come to UNI wouldn't he then use his red-shirt next year, when Grace is a senior, giving him two years of elgibility remaining (Grace gone) to compete for the starting QB job?

He very well could do that, but there is also Davis behind Grace, who has shown some very good things.

Bates could be a very large asset to have though. Line him up at WR, RB, QB, KR, etc... He could be very dangerous

[Chitown Panther]

Re: Bates?

He very well could do that, but there is also Davis behind Grace, who has shown some very good things.

Bates could be a very large asset to have though. Line him up at WR, RB, QB, KR, etc... He could be very dangerous

That is what he does at ISU....and he apparently doesn't like that.....

[clenz]

Re: Bates?

That is what he does at ISU....and he apparently doesn't like that.....

From what I would guess is his father doesn't like it, and Bates gets stuck in the middle. If they can't be happy with being on the field somewhere other than QB, I guess I don't want him on the turf in the UNI Dome

[Purrrrrfect]

Re: Bates?

Davis has shown nothing at UNI. Are you really going to say a spring game is something to take something out of?

[clenz]

Re: Bates?

Davis, in his limited action this year, looked very good.

[ubuntuCAT]

Re: Bates?

Davis, in his limited action this year, looked very good.

In his limited action I would agree.... he was what 5-6 against BYU? Bigger stage than Bates has thrown the ball on this year.

[bigfridaynite]

Re: Bates?

Davis has shown nothing at UNI. Are you really going to say a spring game is something to take something out of?

Davis has shown he's not going to give up because he's the back up QB.
I'm not saying Davis is better then Grace but UNI has one of the best back up QB around and i'm pretty sure the staff knows that.If something would happen to Grace I don't think things would change a bit.

[Chitown Panther]

Re: Bates?

Davis has shown he's not going to give up because he's the back up QB.
I'm not saying Davis is better then Grace but UNI has one of the best back up QB around and i'm pretty sure the staff knows that.If something would happen to Grace I don't think things would change a bit.

Davis is gonna put up BIG passing numbers when he gets the chance.

I'm excited for him. I have always been of the mind set...that QBs go to college to throw the ball and RBs go to college to run the ball. Every now and then...theres an exception....