other FCS games 11/1

[UNI MadCat]

Re: other FCS games 11/1

You can hate ASS U out of jealousy...but that is YOUR reason, not all of PN's. I envy their success...who wouldn't?

You missed my point apperently... I dont hate ASU... others here do. We do agree in our envy because, as you said, 'who wouldn't'.

I had a great time at the championship, too...until some of their idiot fans came running through our tailgate before had yelling obcenities and knocking into people. I blew that off as just a few dumb, drunk college kids. Every fan base has 'em...and I was actually one of 'em once upon a time, I'm sure.

So then why would you let those fans apparently ruin your good time? First off, dont exaggerate... it was one kid who ran through with shoulder pads on and he affectionately became known as 'Pads' on this board for a long time. I took a direct hit from him so yes, I saw the idiot behavior. If you were in the lot then you also saw a group of our students (UNI Baseball players no less) carrying an ASU flag with a "F" and a "G" painted on it. Topping it off by burning it in effigy for all to see. Classy.

After the game our crowd tried to salute our team for a great season and the two teams on the field for a great, hard fought game. If you witnessed what took place, you understand why I say that I found a new #1 enemy in FCS. My kids saw things they shouldn't have...and heard way more than I would have ever wanted or imagined. I ask you, what UNI fans you saw "acting like idiots" after that game that was even comparable to the ASS U fans?

I also saw two UNI fans in a fist fight on the field after the game with ASU fans. I actually met one of the UNI fans afterwards. He felt terrible. He just reacted to what he was seeing but he knew it was no excuse. Football fandom is a highly testosterone driven event (with lots of alcohol to boot). Most of the occurances on both sides are inexcusable but it happens, for better or worse.

Back at our tailgate area after the game a number of UNI fans were cursing and in some cases throwing things at ASU fans that walked by in joyous celebration.

There were a number of other incidents I saw on both sides, but no need to keep going on.

I suppose its easier to just sit around and hold grudges for years. Bottom line, a lot of people are willing to play off what they see from UNI people as nothing and are very quick to indict entire fanbases as 'terrible' based on similar actions (as if somehow 'a little bad' is excusable but a perceived -- noting that perception isn't always reality -- 'lot of bad' is not). See threads on Montana, Deleware, New Hampshire and, of course, ASU fans. IMHO, many on this board consistently look like the biggest whiners in FCS.

The bar we were at after the game was packed with ASU people and for the most part they were all more than pleasant. Funny how if you actually try talking to people cordially, you find out that they are real humans just like you.

When they won the game last year and it became totally obvious that there is no control over their fans, and big Jer wouldn't even try to stop the banjo pickin' before the game was over, I lost ALL respect for that program and fan base.

A thinly veiled stereotype I see? But that's ok, correct? If we win and our fans storm the field and someone on the ASU board posts that 'the little cornfed piggies from UNI couldn't stay off the field' are you going to get offended?

This weekend's game was just another nail in that coffin for me. I don't envy their classlessness in running up 70 on a team...and I don't care that it was the #3 team in the country. It is still classless. And for those that say, "just stop them if you don't want them to score", that isn't always possible and especially when the game is OVER...like 10 minutes before it was over. The team was demoralized, they were embarrassed, I'm sure, and they were as ready for the clock to tick down as anyone. To have the opponent's coach running no huddle, hurry up at the end of that game was just stupid and you can "try" to defend it, but I think you have to reach to make a justification.

I'm not trying to defend it. I just dont really care and dont understand why people here do beyond pure envy of ASU's success (or jealousy, whatever word you want to use).

Now, I will agree 100% that they made a great showing in regards to fan support and game atmosphere on national T.V. We laid an egg as a fan base in our opportunity. Unfortunately, that will carry a long way with recruiting for them, I'm sure. But, no matter what, there will come a time that they are getting beat more often than now and their little dynasty will end. I wish it sooner than later, but that is maybe a "Yankee" or "Cowboy" comment. I just want them to lose and UNI to win.

Agreed.

But the coaches and fans, I have no respect for...not that they are looking for my endorsement.

Your opinion and thats fine. And no, they aren't.

Anyway, today we are too willing to accept stupidy and explain it away.

Or ignoring it when its our own or playing it off because the stupidity was somehow less than the other side and therefore, forgivable, right?

I think that classlessness needs to be called out.

Sorry P-S, I dont really mean to pick on you specifically... I just get tired of this attitude that somehow that UNI fans are purrrfect and that this stuff just happens to others. I'm all about pointing it out... I just think if it is, it should be callled out on both sides without the 'holier than thou' negligence to the fact that we're not always the perfect fanbase we portend to be.

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: other FCS games 11/1

Good post and I can agree with almost everything you wrote. I still have ZERO respect for scoring a hurry up TD with 1:30 left in a 63 - 24 game and I would call that out on our side, too...but I am done beating this dead horse. Besides, too much attention for a team that gets plenty of it as it is.