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  • #46
    Re: other FCS games 11/1

    Originally posted by Appalcat View Post


    To clarify a few points as I was at the game:

    Every play ASU runs is no huddle. Every play ASU runs is also from the shotgun position. There are no designed plays from under center and I'm fairly certain that's been the case since Richie Williams was quarterback.

    I do believe the score got out of hand, but are you supposed to tell the kids getting into the game in the fourth quarter not to play hard? Football is a two team sport and it's Wofford's job to stop the ball from moving forward.

    ASU is really thin on the defensive side of the ball. Starters were in because there's no one else to play. Linemen and secondary has been depleted by injuries and other circumstances (like Gary Tharrington being ruled academically ineligible).

    There's definitely been some bad blood between Wofford and ASU the past several years. Last year Wofford was up by 4 points with around a minute left in Spartanburg. Instead of taking a knee, the Terriers ran the ball again for a 50 yard score against an ASU defense that was worn down. The team then decided to hop around on the sidelines and show off. So yeah, this game had been circled on the calender and I think a measure of payback was on the minds of the ASU players. Probably not to the tune of 70-24, that scored was entirely unexpected by just about everyone who follows either team.
    Oh it was very obvious that there was a measure of revenge and bad blood in that display at the end of the game...still doesn't make it right. Now the next time Wofford has an opportunity to act like asses to you guys, they will probably do it because "of that one time when Appy hung 70 on us". UNI won handily yesterday against a conference foe that there hasn't always been the best blood with. But with about 4 minutes left and having the ball at about the WIU 25 or so, I said to some people around me, "watch how you end a game with class", and we watched about 4 straight dive plays...up the middle, no deception, nothing special...just enough to run the clock as much as possible. Turned it over on downs and WIU then ran it out on themselves with similar type of play. ASU didn't have to change their offense to a wing T at the end, but I think they know how to either get into a huddle, or at least wait to run the play until there was 2 left on the play clock. They also kept running the spread option...not fullback dive. They knew exactly what they were doing as coaches, so trying to defend it in one sentence and then in the next talking about bad blood...well you get the point. Again, I don't fault the backup QB for trying to get in the endzone...for crying out loud, with a starter like AE, he won't get much opporuntity to do it unless AE gets hurt or decides to go for some $$ next year (man would I love that). Players have to play hard...and you know what, our third string RB could have potentially broken one of those dive plays up the middle for a 30 yard TD...I know he was probably trying. The coaches are who I "blame". But again, they don't care, obviously, and I'm just glad we play in the MVFC where coaches seem to actually respect each other.

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    • #47
      Re: other FCS games 11/1

      Originally posted by Panther-Sheik View Post
      Oh it was very obvious that there was a measure of revenge and bad blood in that display at the end of the game...still doesn't make it right. Now the next time Wofford has an opportunity to act like asses to you guys, they will probably do it because "of that one time when Appy hung 70 on us". UNI won handily yesterday against a conference foe that there hasn't always been the best blood with. But with about 4 minutes left and having the ball at about the WIU 25 or so, I said to some people around me, "watch how you end a game with class", and we watched about 4 straight dive plays...up the middle, no deception, nothing special...just enough to run the clock as much as possible. Turned it over on downs and WIU then ran it out on themselves with similar type of play. ASU didn't have to change their offense to a wing T at the end, but I think they know how to either get into a huddle, or at least wait to run the play until there was 2 left on the play clock. They also kept running the spread option...not fullback dive. They knew exactly what they were doing as coaches, so trying to defend it in one sentence and then in the next talking about bad blood...well you get the point. Again, I don't fault the backup QB for trying to get in the endzone...for crying out loud, with a starter like AE, he won't get much opporuntity to do it unless AE gets hurt or decides to go for some $$ next year (man would I love that). Players have to play hard...and you know what, our third string RB could have potentially broken one of those dive plays up the middle for a 30 yard TD...I know he was probably trying. The coaches are who I "blame". But again, they don't care, obviously, and I'm just glad we play in the MVFC where coaches seem to actually respect each other.
      Wofford has a history of running up scores on teams. I watched their game against Chattanooga (a 56-7 win) earlier this year and the Terriers were still passing the ball well into the fourth. The Mocs had given up by halftime. They beat a hapless Western Carolina team 42-14 two weeks ago and beat Elon 55-20 last week. Ayers has a documented history of trick plays, gimmicks and other stuff while playing the game.



      ASU ran no trick or gimmick plays on Friday night. In fact, I can't even remember the time they tried a fake field goal or punt. After AE left the game early in the fourth, ASU passed the ball for a total of 15 yards. Every other play was a run. I agree the play clock should have been allowed to tick down a few more seconds, but it is what it is.

      I don't think ASU is gonna dive or let their foot off the gas any more games this year. It's fortunate if UNI is able to, but ASU got burned by JMU in September by coming out lackluster in the second half. A lack of focus and intensity almost lost games against Georgia Southern and Furman as well. Last Friday was the first complete game played this year. Making the rounds on various boards like AGS, and see a majority of folks saying Wofford was going to come into KBS and smoke us (where we've won 39 out of the last 40 games), well..I don't feel too sorry for the Terriers or their fans.

      It's obvious your posts that you don't care for App at all, and that's cool. I'm not trying to change your mind. I just wanted to show that there's more going on behind the scenes, and not everything is as black as white as it may look on television. Take care!

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      • #48
        Re: other FCS games 11/1

        Ah we get it, all SoCon teams are unsportsmanlike and run up scores. We would take a knee on the 1 yard line if the game was in hand, and thats the way it should be.
        UNI FIGHT

        Originally posted by 9YRPLAN
        iowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck

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        • #49
          Re: other FCS games 11/1

          Originally posted by Appalcat View Post
          There's definitely been some bad blood between Wofford and ASU the past several years. Last year Wofford was up by 4 points with around a minute left in Spartanburg. Instead of taking a knee, the Terriers ran the ball again for a 50 yard score against an ASU defense that was worn down. The team then decided to hop around on the sidelines and show off. So yeah, this game had been circled on the calender and I think a measure of payback was on the minds of the ASU players. Probably not to the tune of 70-24, that scored was entirely unexpected by just about everyone who follows either team.
          There is a major difference between scoring to go up by 11 points and scoring to go up by 46 points.

          But while I agree that "running up the score" isn't really the "proper" thing to do, I don't neccessarily consider it a major infraction. I'll reserve that for cheap shots and the like with intent to injure players. Or fans crowding the field with 4 minutes left on the gameclock, or vandalizing a stadium by cutting out a section of field turf. (not that the team had anything to do with the latter two. or that any ASU player has taken cheap shots, that was just a generalization. but anyway)

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          • #50
            Re: other FCS games 11/1

            I agree you need to win with class, but I can't fault ASU for scoring as much as they can in 60 mins.

            They had 2 losses....they can't afford to lose again. Some game just snow ball. I think this was one of them.

            Your memory is VERY SHORT.....

            November 10 Indiana State W 68-14 10-0 (6-0)

            We didn't need to beat the sycamores this bad last year. But the game snow balled....and yes I know we scored our last TD Very early in the 4th.

            People are over reacting. ASU had a lot on the line and I think they took advantage of it. Just My Opinion.
            "We're not an ordinary school," said Fort. "We have tradition. We have a good team year after year. We rebuild, and it doesn't matter who we have coming back."

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            • #51
              Re: other FCS games 11/1

              Only problem was, Indiana State couldn't stop the dives from the 3rd string running back.
              UNI FIGHT

              Originally posted by 9YRPLAN
              iowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck

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              • #52
                Re: other FCS games 11/1

                I'd kind of like to see us run it up on Indiana State, at least in the facet of keeping Corey in the game through at least the third quarter so he can make progress toward becoming the career rushing yards leader for UNI.

                But of course, his health and the game situation trumps that.

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                • #53
                  Re: other FCS games 11/1

                  How many yards does he need yet? That injury in the Nicholls game really screwed him out of another great season.
                  UNI FIGHT

                  Originally posted by 9YRPLAN
                  iowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck

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                  • #54
                    Re: other FCS games 11/1

                    Every team has both classless and classy fans, Appalcat you appear to be the latter, thanks for sharing.

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                    • #55
                      Re: other FCS games 11/1

                      Originally posted by 06panther10 View Post
                      How many yards does he need yet? That injury in the Nicholls game really screwed him out of another great season.
                      Jeff Stoval holds the record with 3,835 career rushing yards.
                      Corey Lewis currently has 3,448 career rushing yards.

                      387 yards to go.

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                      • #56
                        Re: other FCS games 11/1

                        mmmm...I think that is still attainable. Say maybe 200 against Indiana State, he is looking pretty good. Also, does playoff yardage count? Because that is looking pretty likely now as well.
                        UNI FIGHT

                        Originally posted by 9YRPLAN
                        iowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck

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                        • #57
                          Re: other FCS games 11/1

                          Originally posted by 06panther10 View Post
                          mmmm...I think that is still attainable. Say maybe 200 against Indiana State, he is looking pretty good. Also, does playoff yardage count? Because that is looking pretty likely now as well.
                          Corey holds the record for most rushing yards in a season, with his 2007 season total of 1513 yards, which is his total including playoff yardage. So I'm guessing yes, playoff yardage does count.

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                          • #58
                            Re: other FCS games 11/1

                            Yes it does include playoff games. The NCAA changed the rule a few years ago to include post season games for records but I don't believe they went back to previous season to change players numbers only on seasons after they changed the rule do they include post season numbers.

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                            • #59
                              Re: other FCS games 11/1

                              Originally posted by Chitown Panther View Post
                              I agree you need to win with class, but I can't fault ASU for scoring as much as they can in 60 mins.

                              They had 2 losses....they can't afford to lose again. Some game just snow ball. I think this was one of them.

                              Your memory is VERY SHORT.....

                              November 10 Indiana State W 68-14 10-0 (6-0)

                              We didn't need to beat the sycamores this bad last year. But the game snow balled....and yes I know we scored our last TD Very early in the 4th.

                              People are over reacting. ASU had a lot on the line and I think they took advantage of it. Just My Opinion.
                              Didn't the second string dome in during the second quarter? Or at least start working in at that point? If not it was shortly after half they were in.

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                              • #60
                                Re: other FCS games 11/1

                                Originally posted by Chitown Panther View Post
                                I agree you need to win with class, but I can't fault ASU for scoring as much as they can in 60 mins.

                                They had 2 losses....they can't afford to lose again. Some game just snow ball. I think this was one of them.

                                Your memory is VERY SHORT.....

                                November 10 Indiana State W 68-14 10-0 (6-0)

                                We didn't need to beat the sycamores this bad last year. But the game snow balled....and yes I know we scored our last TD Very early in the 4th.

                                People are over reacting. ASU had a lot on the line and I think they took advantage of it. Just My Opinion.
                                We could have picked our score in this game...... 68-14 was with 2nd and 3rd string guys getting extended action. Indiana state is just that bad
                                "I think they're very good," Farley said of the preseason top 25 Hawkeyes. "But so are we."

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