re-watching the UNH game

[jegbomb52]

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I don't care what hind sight is, the play calling in at the end of the first half was coach solomons worst body of work in his 8 years of being the O coordinator (with maybe the exception of abondoning the run against Deleware last year). Pound the rock, even if we score a TD pass there I know I still would have been scratching my head. We should have ran 4 QB sneaks in a row and that game would have been a 20 pt lead 5 minutes into the third quarter.

[BCPanther]

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I wanted to walk down to the sideline and choke him after the call in the first half to hand the ball to Mahaffey. Nothing good was going to happen there, that fumble was not Mahaffey's fault at all, the play call put him in a terrible situation.

The guy basically lines up as a 3rd guard on most plays. He is not comfortable running the football!!

[06panther10]

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The call before the half and the Mahaffey call were indeed a couple of the worst calls I have ever seen from UNI. I cannot believe those calls came from our coaching staff. Like Brett said, NOTHING good was going to happen from that Mahaffey play. Best case scenario there, he gets 1 yard, worst case scenario....well we saw the worst case scenario. I was sure that that play before the half was going to ruin our season. That was unbelievably stupid on our part. You have to assure your team that they will be able to atleast get 3 points before halftime. The coaches really set us up to fail at that point.

Thank GOD that we were able to recover from those plays, otherwise they would forever live in infamy here in panthernation.

[UNI Prof]

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The call before the half and the Mahaffey call were indeed a couple of the worst calls I have ever seen from UNI. I cannot believe those calls came from our coaching staff. Like Brett said, NOTHING good was going to happen from that Mahaffey play. Best case scenario there, he gets 1 yard, worst case scenario....well we saw the worst case scenario. I was sure that that play before the half was going to ruin our season. That was unbelievably stupid on our part. You have to assure your team that they will be able to atleast get 3 points before halftime. The coaches really set us up to fail at that point.

Thank GOD that we were able to recover from those plays, otherwise they would forever live in infamy here in panthernation.

The goalline call should have been a run, as we still had a timeout IIRC. No need to throw there with our O-line and a TO.

[Panther-Sheik]

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I was PISSED (as were thousands of others) at half time. The play calling has been pretty ridiculous for the past few seasons IMO. Whether it is putting a 10 point game "on ice" with a quarter left to play, or abandoning the run against Delaware last year when we were absolutely demoralizing them with it, or that stupid a$$ dive play to Mahaffey and then terrible red zone calls before half. I hope our talent continues to overcome Salmon for a couple more games.

[Big_Al]

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I'm not one to normally criticize the play-calling because, hell, I would be terrible at it.

That said:

Passing plays from the 2?

With less than a minute left?

When we have the lead?

Really?

[UNI92]

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I think that Salmon does an excellent job..he just had a bad night last night..
I'm very confident that he'll do an outstanding job on Saturday.

Regardless of the play calling though, PG still shouldn't be forcing that throw in there. That comes down to execution on the players part!

[CincyPanther88]

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I'm not one to normally criticize the play-calling because, hell, I would be terrible at it.

That said:

Passing plays from the 2?

With less than a minute left?

When we have the lead?

Really?

Yeah, you kind of want to go with your strength there but everyone makes mistakes including the coaches. Hopefully you learn from your mistakes and don't mess up again.

[9YRPLAN]

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the camera operator got owned all game

[06panther10]

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the camera operator got owned all game

Thats funny because on that TD run that Pat had, the whole crowd took an extra 10 seconds to cheer because everyone thought Corey still had the ball.

[Khan4Cats]

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So watching it on TV, I suppose some of the officials calls aren't QUITE as terrible as they appeared in person. The ball may not have broken the plane of the endzone on the plays where we got called down inside the one.

However, that facemask penalty called on us on the UNH reverse should NOT have been called. Yes, the defender's hand brushed across the facemask. And it might have warranted a 5-yard incidental call last year. But they've done away with that penalty this year. And it certainly wasn't a 15-yard facemask. Not sure if that would have made much difference. But still.

I agree, some of the calls were better looking back.

On Collins' catch, it actually looked on replay that his knee hit at about the 1 1/2 yard line, so we got a favorable spot (only time all game).

I disagree on the facemask, the head was turned by the grab, even if it was ever so slight. We were also lucky that Llyod did not get called for slamming the runner down out-of-bounds on the same play.

The PF on Collins was justified, he slapped the guy upside the head after the play (not a tap, almost a punch).

The PF on Thompson was crap though, he had contact with the guy in bounds and let go of him as they reached the egde of the turf, the guy fell when his shoes hit the drainage grates and he was ducking under the decapitator, two steps after Thompson had let him go.

My biggest gripe was with the line calls.

The officials must have felt Ruffin hadn't been given enough love, they were wanting to make sure the UNH lineman could just hold him all night and make it better.

[Khan4Cats]

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I don't care what hind sight is, the play calling in at the end of the first half was coach solomons worst body of work in his 8 years of being the O coordinator (with maybe the exception of abondoning the run against Deleware last year). Pound the rock, even if we score a TD pass there I know I still would have been scratching my head. We should have ran 4 QB sneaks in a row and that game would have been a 20 pt lead 5 minutes into the third quarter.

I don't have a problem with passing in that situation, but it should have been a roll-out with a run/pass option for Pat. If he was going to throw it, it should have been a pattern at the back of the end zone, even if it gets picked, there should be bodies around that would prevent a runback. Throwing right at the goalline meant the only players who could chase a pick-off would be lineman and Grace.

The Mahaffey carry still boggles my mind. They switched him to TE this year. Did he even carry the ball last year as FB?

The other play that confused me was after Harris' interception with 5 to go in the 4th. Did anyone really think we were going to throw it? Why the heck call a DRAW play? Just run it at them. They know we're running, we know we're running, they hadn't been stopping our straight ahead game at all. Smash mouth is what was needed.

[jegbomb52]

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I must digress, I didn't intend for this to become a Bill Solmon bash thread, it was just in my opinion a poor performance on Saturday. He is a great coordinator that calls an extremely balanced game, maybe he though 9,000 people were thinking run, so he passed, I still think it was the wrong call.

The Mahaffey run, it is necessary for him to run the football, he should get a few carry's. It makes his job as a fullback SO much easier if there is that 4 percent chance that he might have the football. That is not Solmon's bad, that is Mahaffey's, he does ball carrying drills every single day and should be able to hold onto the ball his only carry of the game.

[CincyPanther88]

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I must digress, I didn't intend for this to become a Bill Solmon bash thread, it was just in my opinion a poor performance on Saturday. He is a great coordinator that calls an extremely balanced game, maybe he though 9,000 people were thinking run, so he passed, I still think it was the wrong call.

The Mahaffey run, it is necessary for him to run the football, he should get a few carry's. It makes his job as a fullback SO much easier if there is that 4 percent chance that he might have the football. That is not Solmon's bad, that is Mahaffey's, he does ball carrying drills every single day and should be able to hold onto the ball his only carry of the game.

Valid points. When a play works, no one sits there and says, "They should have done this or they should have done that."

[jegbomb52]

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Valid points. When a play works, no one sits there and says, "They should have done this or they should have done that."

I personally would have even if we had scored a touchdown and went up 13 at half.