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Should we just ignore the years when Farley also finished out of the playoffs, including a 5-6 year? I mean, it shapes your argument a lot better. Or would that rEdiculous to claim him as unsuccessfuLL???Originally posted by 06panther10 View PostSecond, this is UNI. 7-4 and NO playoffs is unsuccessfull. We have always been a top 5 program for the most part, with the exception of when he was coach.
Dont confuse people with facts... their mind is already made up (even if they can't spell).Last edited by UNI MadCat; 01-08-2009, 10:43 AM.
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Four straight years without a playoff appearance is different than one 5-6 year plus mostly playoff appearances during the rest of them.Originally posted by UNI MadCat View PostShould we just ignore the years when Farley also finished out of the playoffs, including a 5-6 year? I mean, it shapes your argument a lot better. Or would that rEdiculous to claim him as unsuccessfuLL???
Dont confuse people with facts... their mind is already made up (even if they can't spell).UNI isn't exactly splitting atoms in terms of academics. -run&blade
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Mostly? Or every other year until finally this year? Look I'm not 'defending' Dunbar any more than I'm ripping on Farley... MF has brought UNI back to the national stage after a hiatus, yes. However, again, MD's RECORD, which is the only thing I'm defending, was not 'unsuccessful'. Go back and read my first post, I never claimed to have anything for the guy.Originally posted by TH1974 View PostFour straight years without a playoff appearance is different than one 5-6 year plus mostly playoff appearances during the rest of them.
People like you claiming those years were bad are one of the reasons we have trouble filling the Dome on a consistent basis. Its one of the byproducts of consistent success I guess. Look at the Atlanta Braves -- so many trips to the playoffs that during the last handful of years they couldn't come close to selling out the playoff games (unless an oppenent filled the place). So when our own diehards start claiming that a run of 7-4/8-3 seasons are somehow unsuccessful, why should we expect the 'casual' fan to come out support them during any time other than when they are at the very top?
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They were frustrating years because we weren't in the playoffs. Several of us got SO frustrated that one year we drove down to Western Illinois for a playoff game because we missed being in them. We wanted to be in that atmosphere again.Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier'n puttin' it back.
Before you wonder "Am I doing things right," ask "Am I doing the right things?"
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What a bunch of crap. Those years ARE unsuccessfull when compared to what almost every other coach has done here.Originally posted by UNI MadCat View PostMostly? Or every other year until finally this year? Look I'm not 'defending' Dunbar any more than I'm ripping on Farley... MF has brought UNI back to the national stage after a hiatus, yes. However, again, MD's RECORD, which is the only thing I'm defending, was not 'unsuccessful'. Go back and read my first post, I never claimed to have anything for the guy.
People like you claiming those years were bad are one of the reasons we have trouble filling the Dome on a consistent basis. Its one of the byproducts of consistent success I guess. Look at the Atlanta Braves -- so many trips to the playoffs that during the last handful of years they couldn't come close to selling out the playoff games (unless an oppenent filled the place). So when our own diehards start claiming that a run of 7-4/8-3 seasons are somehow unsuccessful, why should we expect the 'casual' fan to come out support them during any time other than when they are at the very top?
Why is this so hard to understand. The reason so many fans were upset with what Dunbar did here is the same reason North Carolina baskeball fans are upset with a 20-12 season. 7-4 might be a great season at Indiana State or wherever, but at UNI, people expect the playoffs, and I think that is pretty fair considering we have made the playoffs 14 or 15 times in the last 25 years or so.
Its fine for you to be OK with mediocrity, but you don't have to rip on people who expect more.UNI FIGHT
Originally posted by 9YRPLANiowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck
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Waterloo Memorial Stadium (which is located next to Central Middle School) is just as good a facility (if not better) as some other FCS school's normal stadiums.Originally posted by TREE View PostDunbar didn't sugar coat or BS...you knew what you were getting with him and alot of people don't like it that way....sounds like UNI fans especially. Got to give the guy credit. He was there during the time the dome roof was being fixed (had to play a top ranked McNeese at Central High) and to keep a team together during those times couldn't have been too easy.
I could go on about his good traits and bad, but he wasn't a UNI guy so our fans won't listen anyway.
New Hampshire, for instance.
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I'm "new" to the UNI football history but I did some research and here are to top 5 all time winning% at UNI for coaches who did more than 15 games
Allen - %74.257
Farley - %72.816
Mudra - %72.500
Dunbar - %65.909
Starbeck - %61.350
at least that is what collegefootballdatabase has for UNI.
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Win-loss was not the main issue with Dunbar.Selling a lot of old UNI stuff here: http://www.panthernation.com/showthread.php?t=65762
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I see the Brett Ingalls (Coach Dunbar's offensive coordinator while at UNI) is going to be the running backs coach for the New Orleans Saints. Say what you want about Coach Dunbar, I miss the offense UNI had back in those years.
While people tried to ignore it at the time, racism had to be a charge against Dunbar. I think that was probably much more serious than the fans or the band feeling left out.
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Originally posted by Roy Fleming View PostWhile people tried to ignore it at the time, racism had to be a charge against Dunbar. I think that was probably much more serious than the fans or the band feeling left out.
From talking to players on his teams, I would agree.Selling a lot of old UNI stuff here: http://www.panthernation.com/showthread.php?t=65762
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