NW Mo St

[doolittledog]

Re: NW Mo St

In FBS, you have 85 players on full scholarship. In FCS you can divide 63 scholarships among 85 players. In many FCS schools you will have about 50 players on full ride and the remaining 13 scholarships are divided among the last 35 players. In D2 you can divide 36 scholarships among 85 players. In D2 most freshmen are only given about a $1,000 football scholarship and then scramble to find their additional finantial aid. As they progress into their sophomore year their football scholarship money will go up. As they get more playing time in their junior and senior years it goes up further. Still, very few D2 football players ever receive a full scholarship, much less a football scholarship over 50%.

Size of the school really doesn't matter. If kids want to play D2 football they will find a school that will get them some money. If Team X offers X amount of money, they will go to Team Y and see if they offer them more money. It isn't like high school where they hold tryouts to whoever is interested from the student body that shows up to school and find some guys. All D2 players are recruited to their school.

Funny enough, D3 schools don't offer football scholarships, but the amount of finantial aid they can offer most students often is better than what a kid can get getting a partial football scholarship at a D2 school. That just isn't all that well known. I even know a kid that got a 50% football scholarship at UNI. Dropped out after 1 year and went to Wartburg the next year and was able to go to Wartburg for less money out of pocket than at UNI.

[FOTY]

Re: NW Mo St

It isn't like high school where they hold tryouts to whoever is interested from the student body that shows up to school and find some guys. All D2 players are recruited to their school.

Actually, I know of 2 situations where this is not true. One the student decided to attend the school because of their ROTC program. Upon meeting his roommates (also fb players), he decided to try out.

The other situation involved a student in his softmore year deciding that he missed fb. He called up the coach's office and got to try out.

Neither were recruited for fb. Both made contact with the coachs and tried out.

[doolittledog]

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Actually, I know of 2 situations where this is not true. One the student decided to attend the school because of their ROTC program. Upon meeting his roommates (also fb players), he decided to try out.

The other situation involved a student in his softmore year deciding that he missed fb. He called up the coach's office and got to try out.

Neither were recruited for fb. Both made contact with the coachs and tried out.

Yeah, I shouldn't have written "all" that was wrong. There are cases where a kid shows up at the school and ends up on the team. What I think is misinterpreted though is that in D2 you have 36 players on full scholarship and then a bunch of walk-ons from the general student body. That isn't the case.

[TravelingPanther]

Re: NW Mo St

Actually, I know of 2 situations where this is not true. One the student decided to attend the school because of their ROTC program. Upon meeting his roommates (also fb players), he decided to try out.

The other situation involved a student in his softmore year deciding that he missed fb. He called up the coach's office and got to try out.

Neither were recruited for fb. Both made contact with the coachs and tried out.

To be fair, almost anyone can try to walk on. It wasn't the size of the student body, just the fact that he decided to try out.

[Herdman]

Re: NW Mo St

You guys need to get out more. A lot of Iowa kids play D2 football in the NSIC, MIAA and even the RMAC. NW does not have a lock on the state.

[NorthernIowaBacker]

Re: NW Mo St

D2 football in the NSIC, MIAA and even the RMAC. NW does not have a lock on the state.

I have zero idea what those acronyms mean.

LMAO LOL ROLF. BRB.

[Herdman]

Re: NW Mo St

I have zero idea what those acronyms mean.

LMAO LOL ROLF. BRB.

That's okay, it supports my position even more however. LMAO

[doolittledog]

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So you get a lot of UNI fans that get mad if an Iowa or Iowa St. fan calls UNI a D2 school. But then you get UNI fans that know nothing about D2 or D3 schools. Interesting.

[TravelingPanther]

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So you get a lot of UNI fans that get mad if an Iowa or Iowa St. fan calls UNI a D2 school. But then you get UNI fans that know nothing about D2 or D3 schools. Interesting.

Why should we? Of course we would be offended, we're D-I. Why should a D-I school's fane be required to know about D-II?

Iowa and Iowa State fans should know were D-I from wrestling and basketball, if nothing else.

[Panther-Sheik]

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The fact that there is only 1 DII school in the entire state of Iowa probably has something to do with the lack of knowledge of those acronyms.
Also, I do see a potential valid point in the size of the campus influencing more and "better" recruits, in that they will get a bigger, and arguably more "bigtime" college atmosphere at a NW Mo. St. vs. say...Upper Iowa. They probably have larger home crowds for their athletic events, which is when recruits are brought in for official visits. They probably also have more amenities (and women) than their smaller counterparts.

[UnderParPanther]

Re: NW Mo St

Football attendence at NW is unbelievable...all the other sports its pretty bad and prolly like alot of D2 programs....men's bball will get a decent crowd for rivalry games

[FOTY]

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The fact that there is only 1 DII school in the entire state of Iowa probably has something to do with the lack of knowledge of those acronyms.
Also, I do see a potential valid point in the size of the campus influencing more and "better" recruits, in that they will get a bigger, and arguably more "bigtime" college atmosphere at a NW Mo. St. vs. say...Upper Iowa. They probably have larger home crowds for their athletic events, which is when recruits are brought in for official visits. They probably also have more amenities (and women) than their smaller counterparts.

Not to mention more opportunities... including the programs of study. A school of 22k has more undergrad options. For example, by my count, UIU has 51 options for undergrad degree and 4 options for graduate work. GVSU has 77 undergrad options and 28 graduate options.

[Herdman]

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Why should we? Of course we would be offended, we're D-I. Why should a D-I school's fane be required to know about D-II?

Iowa and Iowa State fans should know were D-I from wrestling and basketball, if nothing else.

You're only "required" to know things you want to know about. And if you don't want to know about D2, NAIA or D3 that's fine, but don't get into the conversation. It's common curtesy.

You know that UNI was once D2 in the NCC, right? They were in the same D2 conference with NDSU, SDSU, UND, USD, Morningside, UNO and UNC. It has roots that run pretty long there. All of the current MVFC (D1 light) programs were D2 back in the day. When UNI made the "jump" becasue the NCAA rules changed GVSU, for example was only about 10-12 years old as a college.

[Herdman]

Re: NW Mo St

The fact that there is only 1 DII school in the entire state of Iowa probably has something to do with the lack of knowledge of those acronyms.Also, I do see a potential valid point in the size of the campus influencing more and "better" recruits, in that they will get a bigger, and arguably more "bigtime" college atmosphere at a NW Mo. St. vs. say...Upper Iowa. They probably have larger home crowds for their athletic events, which is when recruits are brought in for official visits. They probably also have more amenities (and women) than their smaller counterparts.

That's no excuse, that's like saying because your high school was 4A team not knowing what conferences area 3A, 2A etc. teams is oaky, but you talk shyt about them anyway.

[Panther-Sheik]

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All do respect...When did I or anyone else talk "shyt"? And, yes, it is a viable excuse. If there is only 1 team that plays DII ball in the whole state then you won't see much pub on t.v., radio or anywhere else. Thus, you won't have average joe know anything about those acronyms. Many will at least know that Upper IA is DII (although their relatively new move up may still cause some to remember them as a DIII school for a few years). Now, if we ran around arrogantly classifying all teams that don't play DI basketball as NAIA or even DIII, then you can equate the two and claim people are talking "shyt"...anything else is far short of a viable argument on your part IMO.