NW Mo St

[Chitown Panther]

The DII Receiving leader plays for NW Mo St and is a Soph from Iowa.
The NW Mo St All-Time Sack Leader is from Iowa.

They have a great coach and a good thing going down there!!!

[PurpleCatFan]

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They have a number of former Iowa high school players some that UNI was recruiting.

NWMS is a very good program and the offense looks awesome. They are also playing another great program in Grand Valley State. These two teams have had some classic games in the past.

Could be another one today but right now looking like all BearCats.

[Chitown Panther]

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UNI would get spanked by NW Mo St this year....

[JayJ79]

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UNI would get spanked by NW Mo St this year....

late-season UNI might get beat by them,
but I think early-season UNI would win fairly handily.

Unless the hurricane was Hurricane Ditka.

[FOTY]

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Also watching the game.... the surprising thing to me was the fact that GV State has more than 22,000 students and yet a division 2 program. Kinda explains why they have so many championships.

[doolittledog]

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Also watching the game.... the surprising thing to me was the fact that GV State has more than 22,000 students and yet a division 2 program. Kinda explains why they have so many championships.

They still have to play by D2 rules. 36 scholarships for both football teams out there today. Just like UNI has 63 scholarships, same as 1,600 student Wofford.

[FOTY]

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They still have to play by D2 rules. 36 scholarships for both football teams out there today. Just like UNI has 63 scholarships, same as 1,600 student Wofford.

True. I apologize for not explainging my thinking.....

Why is it that Cedar Falls, WDM Valley, Dowling, Sioux City Heelen, IC, Ankeny, etc High Schools are able to consistently complete for state championships? Its largely due to size. The more students you have, (likely) the more resources you will have and likely the better talent you will have. At only 36 schollys, they have to rely on a number of athletes not on schlorship, as do all DII schools. This isn't a rule, there are always exceptions.

Thus my statement.

[UnderParPanther]

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being a NWMSU alum, it was nice to get the win today and break the 4 game losing streak in the championship game. the NCAA really made it tough on the bearcats to get back to the championship game and its great to see them finish it off. its been so much heartache for me the past 5 years w/ NWMSU and UNI coming so close so often (i was in college there for the 2 previous NC's) and not getting it done.

Mel Churchma (phonically spelled cuz i'm gonna butcher Tjerdsma if i try to spell it) does and excellent job of recruiting for a D2 school. i think i mentioned on here that my family knows W. ILL coach Hendrickson and when Mark was at Iowa he used to let NWMSU know about potential recruits that Iowa couldnt take but might be a good fit there.

Congrats Bearcats!!

[FOTY]

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Congrats to the Bearcats (roar-meow).

NW Mo is an excellent FB school and have a fairly active alumni assoc in the Des Moines area. My brother attended a played football down the road at Mo West (2 state colleges 20 minutes apart). One of the best game I've ever attended was when the two met on NW's way to their first championship.

UPP - how's it really feel to finally get that elusive championship?

[dragon]

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That was an awesome game. Great to see NWMSU get the title and especially to see them beat Grand Valley. I still think the MIAA should have received more than just the one playoff bid.

[9YRPLAN]

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36 rides means that you still have to find 75 guys who are willing to pay to go to school. thats gonna be a lot easier when they have 11,000 potential jersey chasers out there.

[SteinPizza]

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True. I apologize for not explainging my thinking.....

Why is it that Cedar Falls, WDM Valley, Dowling, Sioux City Heelen, IC, Ankeny, etc High Schools are able to consistently complete for state championships? Its largely due to size. The more students you have, (likely) the more resources you will have and likely the better talent you will have. At only 36 schollys, they have to rely on a number of athletes not on schlorship, as do all DII schools. This isn't a rule, there are always exceptions.

Thus my statement.

You're extrapolating high school stuff with college. Collegiately, student body size doesn't matter. Case in point, the U of Miami only has something like 10,000 students. No big deal, they were just the dominant team of the 80s, and very well could be again with a little uptick. Pretty sure Notre Dame is the same way.

Also, keep in mind that WDM Valley, and Ankeny, are in areas with absurd amounts of money. Both cities have very wealthy tax bases, especially in a state like Iowa with a generally low standard of living. Comparing West Des Moines to Sioux City is totally apples and oranges. If Valley wants a new weight room, they just cut a check and go buy it without blinking. Sioux City, ehh, not so much. Same with Cedar Falls.

[06panther10]

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Notre Dame has around 7-8K students.

[JayJ79]

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You're extrapolating high school stuff with college. Collegiately, student body size doesn't matter. Case in point, the U of Miami only has something like 10,000 students. No big deal, they were just the dominant team of the 80s, and very well could be again with a little uptick. Pretty sure Notre Dame is the same way.

FBS football teams are comprised with the vast majority of players receiving scholarships. And FCS programs also have a majority of their players on scholarship. Thus the enrollment size of the school doesn't matter.

But when you get into the divisions with smaller scholarship allotments, then more and more of the team is comprised of walk-ons. So I suppose a higher enrollment might provide some benefits. But not nearly as much as it matters in high school.

[FOTY]

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FBS football teams are comprised with the vast majority of players receiving scholarships. And FCS programs also have a majority of their players on scholarship. Thus the enrollment size of the school doesn't matter.

But when you get into the divisions with smaller scholarship allotments, then more and more of the team is comprised of walk-ons. So I suppose a higher enrollment might provide some benefits. But not nearly as much as it matters in high school.

Thanks Jay, I agree with you 100%. And as I stated, this is not a rule, but works in general terms.

Stein, we'll have to agree to disagree as I don't see you or myself changing opinions....