So much for MVFC realignment

[Newsbreaker]

Re: So much for MVFC realignment

With all of this happening there is something that could mess with the MVFC. We currently have 3 Summit League teams in our conference, and with SUU, USD, and UND (soon to be SL member) that gives the Summit 6 football teams. Could they pull their teams from the MVFC to start their own league?

Okay. See ya guys.

[Big_Al]

Re: So much for MVFC realignment

With all of this happening there is something that could mess with the MVFC. We currently have 3 Summit League teams in our conference, and with SUU, USD, and UND (soon to be SL member) that gives the Summit 6 football teams. Could they pull their teams from the MVFC to start their own league?

About the only way that could happen is if the North Dakota legislature got involved and forced NDSU & UND into the same conference. Otherwise, I think the xDSUs are happy to be away from the UxDs.

More likely is we'll end up with the UxDs in the MVFC. Not ideal, but likely.

[UNI83]

Re: So much for MVFC realignment

About the only way that could happen is if the North Dakota legislature got involved and forced NDSU & UND into the same conference. Otherwise, I think the xDSUs are happy to be away from the UxDs.

More likely is we'll end up with the UxDs in the MVFC. Not ideal, but likely.

Why is your case for why it is unlikely to happen for them to be in the Summit Football League together not the same as for the MVFC?

[UNIpanther99]

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There is a school of thought that the CAA "Superconference" model is the way to go.

I don't really see that it is, but that's the idea being tossed around.

[TravelingPanther]

Re: So much for MVFC realignment

SUU will go to the Big Sky for all sports.

[JayJ79]

Re: So much for MVFC realignment

There is a school of thought that the CAA "Superconference" model is the way to go.

I don't really see that it is, but that's the idea being tossed around.

dumb dumb dumb.
I think it is stupid at the FBS/BCS level (although there it is ALL about football/TV money). And it is even stupider at the FCS level.

Frankly, I think the NCAA should mandate that a conference MUST have a round-robin regular season schedule with all members. (but that will never happen)

[lakesbison]

Re: So much for MVFC realignment

That's because you are scared to play North Dakota.

OH YEA< WE ARE REAL SCARED OF 45-0... you're the morons that couldnt figure out how to stop 1 WR's when you played them!


ZERO reason any of the MVFC teams should let either of those lame ass bad schools into the conference.

they are bad stabbing, pussies that would only DRAG down the conference into the mud!

[Big_Al]

Re: So much for MVFC realignment

Why is your case for why it is unlikely to happen for them to be in the Summit Football League together not the same as for the MVFC?

First, I think the xDSUs enjoy the fact that they're limiting their contact withe UxDs -- being in a higher profile football league is good for their profile and recruiting. If they're in the same conference, there is no advantage -- they's all be going after the same recruits.

Second, I don't think the rest of the MVFC would go for it. Adding more Dakota schools will simply increase travel costs because if you're Youngstown, for example, you'd be flying to a Dakota school possibly twice a year -- not easy on the pocketbook.

Remember, letting UNI in way back when was somewhat controversial because there was a time the Panthers were the NW corner of the conference.

[FargoBison]

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I agree that the CAA model sucks. Once you go beyond 9 teams there is a chance that you can't even crown a true conference champ since not every team plays each other. Anyway with 20 teams in the playoffs there is no reason why the MVFC can't get three teams in every year and in some years maybe even four. That is plenty.

NDSU, SDSU and WIU want nothing to do with Summit Football. Hopefully SUU gets into the Big Sky so that idea can go away for a long time.

[UNI83]

Re: So much for MVFC realignment

First, I think the xDSUs enjoy the fact that they're limiting their contact withe UxDs -- being in a higher profile football league is good for their profile and recruiting. If they're in the same conference, there is no advantage -- they's all be going after the same recruits.

Second, I don't think the rest of the MVFC would go for it. Adding more Dakota schools will simply increase travel costs because if you're Youngstown, for example, you'd be flying to a Dakota school possibly twice a year -- not easy on the pocketbook.

Remember, letting UNI in way back when was somewhat controversial because there was a time the Panthers were the NW corner of the conference.

Now I'm confused as to what you are saying.


Are you saing the UxDs will end up in the MVFC or not?

I'm reading it as you think they will end up in the MVFC. I'm also reading that you didn't think they would end up in a Summit League together because that would mean the legislature would have to force that to happen. What is the difference between the MVFC and a Summit League in the eyes of the legislature having to force it?

Maybe I'm just confused by what you are saying

[Khan4Cats]

Re: So much for MVFC realignment

With all of this happening there is something that could mess with the MVFC. We currently have 3 Summit League teams in our conference, and with SUU, USD, and UND (soon to be SL member) that gives the Summit 6 football teams. Could they pull their teams from the MVFC to start their own league?

Okay. See ya guys.

Yeah, that would be great.

Drop the Valley down to the 5 all-sport teams and YSU. We'd be fine.

Except....

The Valley would lose the automatic play-off bid because we would be below the NCAA minimum of 7 teams in the conference.

So, let's not be so fast to usher anyone out.

[UNIAlum95]

Re: So much for MVFC realignment

that would only DRAG down the conference into the mud!

That is the definition of ironic.

[Newsbreaker]

Re: So much for MVFC realignment

Yeah, that would be great.

Drop the Valley down to the 5 all-sport teams and YSU. We'd be fine.

Except....

The Valley would lose the automatic play-off bid because we would be below the NCAA minimum of 7 teams in the conference.

So, let's not be so fast to usher anyone out.

You're right. It's tragic they're the only teams in the country. How did we get by without them before?

[Khan4Cats]

Re: So much for MVFC realignment

You're right. It's tragic they're the only teams in the country. How did we get by without them before?

And where are these vast quantities of FCS schools that we have the pick of the crop from?

Why do you think we added the xDSU's? Because WKU went to FBS and left the Valley teetering at 7 teams and on the verge of losing the automatic bid.

So who else will we add? Drake? They have no intention of going scholarship. Same with a Butler or Valpo. SEMO? Why would they leave the Ohio Valley? Hope for WKU to drop back down? Not happening.

I think we are fine staying with 9 teams for now. But if the Summit teams band together and look to do something and YSU looks for a more eastern oriented (read CAA) conference, we're in a world of hurt.

[JayJ79]

Re: So much for MVFC realignment

Remember, letting UNI in way back when was somewhat controversial because there was a time the Panthers were the NW corner of the conference.

I assume you're talking about UNI joining the MVC.
Since UNI was a founding member of the Gateway Football Conference (which became the MVFC). Though I suppose there could have been some controversy with that. I was a bit too young at the time to keep up with conference politics.