meltdown thread

[panther1]

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First off, calling for Rennie to be replaced last night is far from racism; his style of play simply wasn't going to get it done against ISU. Davis was so-so, but the receivers at least had a chance to see the ball and Carlos would be much more of a weapon if the opponent thinks there is even a small chance that we will complete/throw a pass.

On the other hand, I question why our offense has not been tailored MORE to Rennie's abilities, as the coaching staff has clearly chosen their go-to QB for 2010. Roll him out of the pocket in passing situations more, he will never be a pocket passer. He has trouble seeing over the line (height) and has trouble making multiple reads from side to side (experience/familiarity with playbook). Run more short crossing routes, throw some quick screen passes, run that end-around/reverse from last night a few times a game (heck, fake it and throw a short route to the other side of the field, run play-action roll outs, etc. Rennie will not be a downfield passing quarterback, but if we play more to his abilities, winning the conference championship is not out of the question this year...

[UNI83]

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First off, calling for Rennie to be replaced last night is far from racism; his style of play simply wasn't going to get it done against ISU. Davis was so-so, but the receivers at least had a chance to see the ball and Carlos would be much more of a weapon if the opponent thinks there is even a small chance that we will complete/throw a pass.

On the other hand, I question why our offense has not been tailored MORE to Rennie's abilities, as the coaching staff has clearly chosen their go-to QB for 2010. Roll him out of the pocket in passing situations more, he will never be a pocket passer. He has trouble seeing over the line (height) and has trouble making multiple reads from side to side (experience/familiarity with playbook). Run more short crossing routes, throw some quick screen passes, run that end-around/reverse from last night a few times a game (heck, fake it and throw a short route to the other side of the field, run play-action roll outs, etc. Rennie will not be a downfield passing quarterback, but if we play more to his abilities, winning the conference championship is not out of the question this year...

The playcalling is completely different with Rennie and Davis in the game. Rennie is forced to try to throw all streaks, and 13 yard curl routes. Those are pretty damn easy to cover, couple that with an inexperience oline and that means bad things for ANY qb. Now when Davis was in there was quicker routes called for the WR that made Davis "look" better, but it doesn't make him better.

[JCPanthers]

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There were some Panther fans there that I found rather annoying. Especially one guy (pretty sure he was drunk, but that's no excuse) that was loudly taunting/mocking/provoking ISU and their fans (at least during the first half).

Really reflected poorly on UNI.

Was he the short mouthy dude with glasses/beard and a gold hat? If so...we heard him too and yes he was a total A-Bag!!

[harry joy]

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Well, disappointing of course, but not a total loss. The defense held ISU to one offensive touchdown (after a fake field goal) and two field goals. UNI outgained the clones by about 100 yards. So, the defense is coming along week to week. I was a bit suprized the Register used the term, "Cyclones crush Panthers".

The offense needs work yes, but we're up one conference victory and beating ISU would have mainly been for bragging rights. I like the chances of our coaching staff coming up with sollutions starting next week.

Due to rain, tailgated at the Vet Center, and it was fantastic! The crowds mixed, and UNI was well represented. I wasn't around the aforementioned taunter, but the consensus of opinion in our section was that our crowd was pretty subdued, much more so than in '07. (even before the mistakes set in)

We didn't snag a victory but personally it wasn't the devastating feeling after we missed a field goal that would have won the game two visits ago. There is a great amount of talent on the squad, and the conference season has yet to be played. Now I'd feel really bad if I were a Saluki fan...

Now that made me feel better.

[JayJ79]

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Was he the short mouthy dude with glasses/beard and a gold hat? If so...we heard him too and yes he was a total A-Bag!!

never turned around to look. tried to ignore him as best as possible, else I might have been too tempted to pop him in the jaw for being an arse.

[Cap'n Cat]

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Was he the short mouthy dude with glasses/beard and a gold hat? If so...we heard him too and yes he was a total A-Bag!!

I SWEAR I was NOT there. Plus, I'm tall.

[bobsboy84]

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I SWEAR I was NOT there. Plus, I'm tall.

plus nobody would be gutsy enough to pop you in the jaw Cap'n, cept maybe Bob for IL.

[Panther-Sheik]

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On the other hand, I question why our offense has not been tailored MORE to Rennie's abilities, as the coaching staff has clearly chosen their go-to QB for 2010. Roll him out of the pocket in passing situations more, he will never be a pocket passer. He has trouble seeing over the line (height) and has trouble making multiple reads from side to side (experience/familiarity with playbook). Run more short crossing routes, throw some quick screen passes, run that end-around/reverse from last night a few times a game (heck, fake it and throw a short route to the other side of the field, run play-action roll outs, etc. Rennie will not be a downfield passing quarterback, but if we play more to his abilities, winning the conference championship is not out of the question this year...

This right here. After the game this was my biggest take-away (besides the constant fumbles and to's). It seemed like if we weren't running the ball in the first half, we were doing a pocket pass with routes that take about 3 - 5 seconds to develop and have multple reads. From the first game I thought, this is stupid to do to Rennie unless he is truly the 2nd coming of Eric Sanders in the pocket (he isn't). Last week we did the same thing. I don't think he is a terrible passer as some try to say. But, he does have strenghts and weaknesses and we aren't playing to them at all right now IMO. Why not do some quick, 2 yard passes with the kid so that he can get some confidence in the throwing game and let the playmakers make some plays? Roll him out with a run / pass option if we are going to throw. Run some screen passes (if the 0-line can handle it). I get so sick of coordinators thinking they can change a leopard's spots. He really is a talent on the field and could / should be a huge weapon if we use him correctly and quit fumbling the ball when we have it down deep. As much as I was disappointed in the play of the team on Saturday, I was more disappointed in the coaching / play calling.

[Newt99]

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On the other hand, I question why our offense has not been tailored MORE to Rennie's abilities, as the coaching staff has clearly chosen their go-to QB for 2010. Roll him out of the pocket in passing situations more, he will never be a pocket passer. He has trouble seeing over the line (height) and has trouble making multiple reads from side to side (experience/familiarity with playbook). Run more short crossing routes, throw some quick screen passes, run that end-around/reverse from last night a few times a game (heck, fake it and throw a short route to the other side of the field, run play-action roll outs, etc. Rennie will not be a downfield passing quarterback, but if we play more to his abilities, winning the conference championship is not out of the question this year...

Roll him out with a run / pass option if we are going to throw. Run some screen passes (if the 0-line can handle it). I get so sick of coordinators thinking they can change a leopard's spots. He really is a talent on the field and could / should be a huge weapon if we use him correctly and quit fumbling the ball when we have it down deep. As much as I was disappointed in the play of the team on Saturday, I was more disappointed in the coaching / play calling.

Great posts, I've been saying the same thing all season. Rennie is more explosive than Davis and will make many more big plays. I think his passing would be much better than people realize if we would just use him the right way. He (and the entire rest of the offense) just needs to learn to protect the ball.

Our defense is so good, they have to be so frustrated at how the offensive mistakes have been killing us. We obviously have plenty of talent, if they can cut out the mistakes and learn to call better plays to utilize our strengths, we could easily still contend for the conference title. We've got to step it up NOW. The next few games are all the most difficult left on the schedule. If we don't get it on track this week it will be too late.

[Cap'n Cat]

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plus nobody would be gutsy enough to pop you in the jaw Cap'n, cept maybe Bob for IL.

Bob was a chick magnet at UNI back in the day. He and Jeff Bealles seemed to get all the tail.

[bobsboy84]

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Bob was a chick magnet at UNI back in the day. He and Jeff Bealles seemed to get all the tail.

Geez Cap'n, now I got to tailgate with this arrogant sh!t all day Saturday.

[Cap'n Cat]

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Geez Cap'n, now I got to tailgate with this arrogant sh!t all day Saturday.

It's true. Peek over the cubicle and take a look at his rugged Gary Cooper looks and, coupled with that affable Jimmy Stewart demeanor, he's a lady slayin' SOB. Positively dreamy.

Used to LOVE watching him take a shower after practice in '84 and '85. Not a hair on his swimmer/model/linebacker body. Butt like a 12 yr old girl.

[UNI Fight]

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That was the absolute worst football game that UNI has played in several years. The last game like this that I can think of is Illinois St in '05, where we lost by like 30 points.

We have some really good players on our football team, but that was certainly NOT a good football team that took the field on Saturday night.

I do think that the conditions really hurt us, as well. Rennie and Carlos just looked plain slow IMO. The conditions really hurt our speed advantage.

The lone bright spot is that defense. The defense did great IMO. Our crap offense set them up with terrible field position all night, and they handled it well, only giving up 1 TD.

I was at that game in Normal when we were favorites to win and lost to Ill State 38-3 or 35-3 I don't want to remember. Sanders went down and left the game. Being in the stands for both those games I say it was far worse than this Iowa State loss because it was a game or two before the playoffs if I remember correctly. But then the team bounced back and we did get to the national title game.

[bobsboy84]

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It's true. Peek over the cubicle and take a look at his rugged Gary Cooper looks and, coupled with that affable Jimmy Stewart demeanor, he's a lady slayin' SOB. Positively dreamy.

Used to LOVE watching him take a shower after practice in '84 and '85. Not a hair on his swimmer/model/linebacker body. Butt like a 12 yr old girl.

OMG, it will be tough to stay on task during our meeting Thursday morning.

[Mountain Panther]

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It's true. Peek over the cubicle and take a look at his rugged Gary Cooper looks and, coupled with that affable Jimmy Stewart demeanor, he's a lady slayin' SOB. Positively dreamy.

Used to LOVE watching him take a shower after practice in '84 and '85. Not a hair on his swimmer/model/linebacker body. Butt like a 12 yr old girl.

Oh no, are you going to launch into that story about your first gay experience in college?