Farley's comments before bracket selection

[JayJ79]

Re: Farley's comments before bracket selection

Don't try and answer that you will never ever be able to convince me that that is the right and fair thing to do!

right and fair??
you forget, this is the NCAA we're talking about here.....

[jegbomb52]

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After witnessing yesterday's game, I was just happy that WIU choked two weeks ago against SIU or else we might have had something much worse than a first round bye to be lamenting.

Wouldn't have mattered, I kind of wish WIU would have beaten SIU, we probably would have a bye next week and possibly the number 5 seed because last Saturday would have been an entirely different game. Does anyone know Farley's record when it is clear the winner of the two teams playing are going to win the title?


3-0 Not a lot of stats, but enough to show that game probably would have been different. I know one thing for sure, we wouldn't be sitting back talking about how laid back practice was last week.

01' UNI defeats WKU (on the road, a year before their NC)
03' UNI defeats SIU
05' UNI defeats SIU

[jegbomb52]

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It is not the "play in round"! It is a 20 team national championship tournament with a first round, 2nd round, third round, fourth round and championship game! All 20 teams are IN the tourney, they don't need to "play their way" into anything; it is just that with a 20 team field not all 20 teams can play in the first round. PLEASE stop calling it the "play in round"! Also, whether all 3 MVFC teams should win in the first round or not doesn't make up for the MVFC regular season champion not getting a first round bye but all four teams out of the CAA do including THEIR 4th place team who also had a 7-4 record! How in the world can anyone justify a 4th place 7-4 team in any FCS conference getting a first round bye but the outright regular season champion of the MVFC doesn't? Don't try and answer that you will never ever be able to convince me that that is the right and fair thing to do!

Sorry Gar, this is a play in game. Anytime less teams are playing the first week than second those teams are trying to play their way in the tourney. If 8 got a bye, and 12 played first weekend you might be able to convince me of it.

[JayJ79]

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Sorry Gar, this is a play in game. Anytime more teams are playing the first week than second those teams are trying to play their way in the tourney. If 8 got a bye, and 12 played first weekend you might be able to convince me of it.

so a team isn't actually in the MVC basketball tourney unless they play on Friday, correct?

[jegbomb52]

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so a team isn't actually in the MVC basketball tourney unless they play of Friday, correct?

Pretty much.

[OH BABY! I luv this team!]

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Sorry Gar, this is a play in game. Anytime less teams are playing the first week than second those teams are trying to play their way in the tourney. If 8 got a bye, and 12 played first weekend you might be able to convince me of it.

So what are you "playing into", you don't have to "play in" to get into the tournament you are already in the 20 team field. You could argue you are 'playing in' to get into the top 16 but that is the second round of the tournament if you do get there, it is not the first round! Also, there are other tournaments in all kinds of sports that have 6, 10, 12, 14, 18 or an "odd" number of teams that get into tournaments and they are not "playing in" to anything, they are IN that tournament. Take the MVC Volleyball championship tourney at UNI this week, 6 teams, 4 play on thursday and two teams do not have to play until the semi finals, BUT all 6 teams are IN the MVC post season tourney! Same thing is true of the MVC post season baseball tourney, 6 teams, all are IN....etc. The NCAA expanded a 16 team tourney to 20 and all 20 teams are IN the National Championship Tournament, there is NO ONE having to play there way into the field, if you are in the bracket as one of the 20 teams you are IN the National Championship Tourney!! I love ya Jeg but you are mistaken on this one!!!

[JayJ79]

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seems to me that it is all just a matter of opinion.
Technically, all 20 are part of the playoffs.
Just like technically, all 65 (now 68) are part of the basketball tournament.

However the majority of people seem to refer to the 64/65 basketball game (and likely the 61-68 matchups) as the "play-in game(s)". Likewise, Jeg and others refer to the 13-20 matchups of the new FCS format to be "play-in games".

Heck, maybe I'll start referring to everything short of the semifinals as being "play-in" games, since the original playoffs only had 4 teams.

[Panther-Sheik]

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Didn't the NCAA itelf call the 64/65 game a play-in game? I thought that was truly to determine who made the "Big Dance". I see this expanded playoff field as totally different. The NCAA didn't add 4 play-in games to FCS this year. They expanded the actual field to 20 teams. I think we are all disappointed that our team fell flat last week and didn't get a bye so there is some "dissing" of them going on. Bottom line, they are in the playoffs just like 19 other teams and unlike 130-some others (or whatever).

[JayJ79]

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Bottom line, they are in the playoffs just like 19 other teams and unlike 130-some others (or whatever).

The NCAA site lists 117 FCS teams in their weekly stats (+8 reclassifying/provisional teams)

doesn't really affect the argument, I'm just filling in the facts.

[jegbomb52]

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This is a play in game just like:

Teams that don't have the auto bid aren't conference champions.

Everyone's a winner.

Participation Certificates.

Ties

Moral Victories

The list goes on and on.

[D Panther]

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You can show all the stats you want about Conferences and teams. Until the MVC has a better post season showing, we continue to get slighted. Also if you havn't realized that there is an east coast bias, you have not paid attention. The other elephant in the room is the fact that this program has ZERO National Tittles. There have been at least 5 years we let it run down out legs. You can put 3 of thoses years on Farley. We may have the second best record in the FCS since 1985 but until we win something there will be no National respect. If we would have taken care of business over the years, we would have had a bye and better draw.

[williebat]

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You can show all the stats you want about Conferences and teams. Until the MVC has a better post season showing, we continue to get slighted. Also if you havn't realized that there is an east coast bias, you have not paid attention. The other elephant in the room is the fact that this program has ZERO National Tittles. There have been at least 5 years we let it run down out legs. You can put 3 of thoses years on Farley. We may have the second best record in the FCS since 1985 but until we win something there will be no National respect. If we would have taken care of business over the years, we would have had a bye and better draw.

I don;t think we deserved a bye after losing the last game of the season. You have to win that game if you want a higher seed. Make sense to me. Maybe Farley should concentrate on our secondary.

IMO this is the playoffs no doubt about it. Is the first round the the MVC bball tourney the MBC tourney? Yes

Is the first round of the FCS playoffs? YES

Just enjoy

[JayJ79]

Re: Farley's comments before bracket selection

more important questions:
to-may-to or to-mah-to?
creek or stream?
and the all important, but contentious: pop or soda?

[UNI83]

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creek or stream?

Neither....Crick

[UNI83]

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Also...so lets say we lose Saturday (hopefully we won't have to worry about it) do we not put up 2010 under the playoff qualifier?

If not, then would this be the first time a conference champ from an autobid conference didn't make the playoffs?