Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

[cmhawks99]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Thought some of you would like to know that Steele Jantz has been named the starting QB. and Tiller is out for the season, he was ruled academically ineligible.

Lot of interesting things been going on in Ames in recent months for such a tight, right sailing ship. Kid is a Jr with a legit shot and he turns IE, not good......not too mention he was IN the race regardless of of the outcome. It was close enuff either way and then he is ineligible all the whole stealing reps from the other 2 guys?! The coaches didn't have a clue, it might happen....!??!?!

There is a WHOLE lot there....

Chad

[cydave]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Lot of interesting things been going on in Ames in recent months for such a tight, right sailing ship. Kid is a Jr with a legit shot and he turns IE, not good......not too mention he was IN the race regardless of of the outcome. It was close enuff either way and then he is ineligible all the whole stealing reps from the other 2 guys?! The coaches didn't have a clue, it might happen....!??!?!

There is a WHOLE lot there....

Chad

Tiller was on academic probation during the spring semester. He was given the summer to get his grades up and couldn't do it.
He's an idiot. Rhoads said he will practice with the scout team and possibly change positions, that is if he doesn't transfer or just drop football altogether.

I actually think this is better, in the long run, IMO. Our second string QB is a redshirt fresh, Jared Barnett who was also battling for the QB job this year. And we also won't have to hear "Put in Tiller!!!" from the student section after Jantz makes a mistake. What would really suck is if we have to burn Sam Richardson's RS becuase of this.

It's nice to know who our starting QB is, though. It will give him a full 2 weeks of practice knowing that he's the starter and can get completely focused, as well as working fulltime with the 1st string O.

Other than that, what other interesting things have been going on in Ames?

[cmhawks99]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Tiller was on academic probation during the spring semester. He was given the summer to get his grades up and couldn't do it.
He's an idiot. Rhoads said he will practice with the scout team and possibly change positions, that is if he doesn't transfer or just drop football altogether.

I actually think this is better, in the long run, IMO. Our second string QB is a redshirt fresh, Jared Barnett who was also battling for the QB job this year. And we also won't have to hear "Put in Tiller!!!" from the student section after Jantz makes a mistake. What would really suck is if we have to burn Sam Richardson's RS becuase of this.

It's nice to know who our starting QB is, though. It will give him a full 2 weeks of practice knowing that he's the starter and can get completely focused, as well as working fulltime with the 1st string O.

Other than that, what other interesting things have been going on in Ames?

I've said enuff....I'm shocked it took this long or that Tiller was involved with a possible IE hanging over his head at all. Dont make sesne....

Jantz should have been getting all the reps.....he has a labored, long delivery and misses wide open guys and that video was a high lite video. He needs to get those ironed out and it ain't happening with split reps.

Chad

[06panther10]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Sounds like ISU has a WR that is injured, and another WR that is also academically ineligible. FWIW

[UNI83]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Sounds like ISU has a WR that is injured, and another WR that is also academically ineligible. FWIW

If those two recorded stats last season ISU is up to losing 80-85% of last years receiving numbers.

[cydave]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I've said enuff....I'm shocked it took this long or that Tiller was involved with a possible IE hanging over his head at all. Dont make sesne....

Jantz should have been getting all the reps.....he has a labored, long delivery and misses wide open guys and that video was a high lite video. He needs to get those ironed out and it ain't happening with split reps.

Chad

Well if he was given summer to get his grades up, grades didn't come out until just a couple days ago. So, there was no idea for the coaching staff to know he was ineligible until now.
I don't see where you're getting confused at?

Sounds like ISU has a WR that is injured, and another WR that is also academically ineligible. FWIW

Yes, Darius Reynolds broke a toe (I think there's already a thread here about that) and he is out for 2 weeks, should be back for the UNI game. He probably won't play much, if at all for the UNI game unless he really needs to, just so he can get 1 more week of rest.

The other WR ruled ineligible was a 3rd string WR. Not a big loss IMO.

[cmhawks99]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I don't see where you're getting confused at?

Confused....no I'm not confused, I'm very intrigued though....

Here we have a kid, Tiller who hasn't been sharp yet, (though to be fair he has won a couple games) who is knowingly on Academic probation. Yet the team is still in a precarious enuff spot at QB that they are still hopeful he gets it in line (I'd have thought he'd have been monitored to the point the coaches knew already if he was close or not) so they let him compete for the job and apparently it was close. Furthermore a Frosh is seriously in the mix over this Juco stud.

Then you tell me PR had said some time back that he'd announce a starter on the 20th.....?!?! The day that you tell me grades come out....hhmmmmm?!?! That's pretty interesting don't you think. Why not on the 18th or 19th so that it helps alleviate the second guessing that is due to come...?!After all were fans, second guessing is what we do.

And now bringing this back full circle to my original statement.....Iowa State fans would be yuking it up about this and calling UNI or Iowa fans homers for painting this in a positive light and here we are back at ISU fans are identical to those they claim to hate. See what I did there.....

Here's the rub...yes I'd agree this is best for ISU per se long term. Its also good for UNI and Iowa both. They no longer have to prepare for a bad Tiller just in case. UNI doesn't have the benefit of course of seeing ISU game tape of Jantz but Iowa will and Tiller wont be in the picture. Who was best will only be known by ISU coaches, but they didn't help to squelch the potential doubt did they?

Chad

[cydave]

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Confused....no I'm not confused, I'm very intrigued though....

Here we have a kid, Tiller who hasn't been sharp yet, (though to be fair he has won a couple games) who is knowingly on Academic probation. Yet the team is still in a precarious enuff spot at QB that they are still hopeful he gets it in line (I'd have thought he'd have been monitored to the point the coaches knew already if he was close or not) so they let him compete for the job and apparently it was close. Furthermore a Frosh is seriously in the mix over this Juco stud.
Then you tell me PR had said some time back that he'd announce a starter on the 20th.....?!?! The day that you tell me grades come out....hhmmmmm?!?! That's pretty interesting don't you think. Why not on the 18th or 19th so that it helps alleviate the second guessing that is due to come...?!After all were fans, second guessing is what we do.

And now bringing this back full circle to my original statement.....Iowa State fans would be yuking it up about this and calling UNI or Iowa fans homers for painting this in a positive light and here we are back at ISU fans are identical to those they claim to hate. See what I did there.....

Here's the rub...yes I'd agree this is best for ISU per se long term. Its also good for UNI and Iowa both. They no longer have to prepare for a bad Tiller just in case. UNI doesn't have the benefit of course of seeing ISU game tape of Jantz but Iowa will and Tiller wont be in the picture. Who was best will only be known by ISU coaches, but they didn't help to squelch the potential doubt did they?

Chad

I think you're digging wayyyy too deep for something that is pretty clear, cut and paste.

Yes, a RS frosh was in the mix and is now our second string QB.

And apparently grades for the summer term came out the 10th. I'm not sure when they knew for sure Tiller would be academically ineligible, but it was probably shortly after that.
From people close to the program and coaches, it sounds like the decision was pretty much made last Wednesday, that Steele would be the guy.

[cmhawks99]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I think you're digging wayyyy too deep for something that is pretty clear, cut and paste.

Yes, a RS frosh was in the mix and is now our second string QB.

And apparently grades for the summer term came out the 10th. I'm not sure when they knew for sure Tiller would be academically ineligible, but it was probably shortly after that.
From people close to the program and coaches, it sounds like the decision was pretty much made last Wednesday, that Steele would be the guy.

Grades came out the 10th, yet they let him keep competing....they are coaches of a BCS program, they don't get to find out immediately if he is eligible?? Seriously...?! And then they didn't make the decision until Wednesday?

Let me say this a different way.....I'm not like many an Iowa fan these days who constantly berate our coaches and their decisions. For the most part I'm pretty happy with what Iowa is, the talent they recruit and send off to the NFL and the way they compete against everyone. But with that said I'd be pretty frustrated to find out KF let a kid who was precariously close to being ineligible compete for ANY position, let alone QB. Cleary he'd already shown he couldn't be counted on. We've been down that road already, right?!

It tells me two things....Jantz isn't clearly "the guy" and after 3 years of building his program PR is still in the position where he has to make desperate decisions. No way Tiller is allowed to compete until he proved he had cleaned up his grades for KF. Its too important to get reps for those who will be eligible!

That's what I'm saying and I believe you or at least some of your cronies who watch Iowa and their personnel decisions would say is true.

As for the "those close stuff....." Yeah I have no doubt, but do we know and if I told you those close to Iowa say we are even faster than ever and have at least 7 legitimate BCS level players in the 2ndary, coupled with some electric Rbers, TE's and Wr's and, and, and....wouldn't you call me a homer?!?!

Just sayin'............

Chad

[cydave]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Grades came out the 10th, yet they let him keep competing....they are coaches of a BCS program, they don't get to find out immediately if he is eligible?? Seriously...?! And then they didn't make the decision until Wednesday?

Let me say this a different way.....I'm not like many an Iowa fan these days who constantly berate our coaches and their decisions. For the most part I'm pretty happy with what Iowa is, the talent they recruit and send off to the NFL and the way they compete against everyone. But with that said I'd be pretty frustrated to find out KF let a kid who was precariously close to being ineligible compete for ANY position, let alone QB. Cleary he'd already shown he couldn't be counted on. We've been down that road already, right?!

It tells me two things....Jantz isn't clearly "the guy" and after 3 years of building his program PR is still in the position where he has to make desperate decisions. No way Tiller is allowed to compete until he proved he had cleaned up his grades for KF. Its too important to get reps for those who will be eligible!

That's what I'm saying and I believe you or at least some of your cronies who watch Iowa and their personnel decisions would say is true.

As for the "those close stuff....." Yeah I have no doubt, but do we know and if I told you those close to Iowa say we are even faster than ever and have at least 7 legitimate BCS level players in the 2ndary, coupled with some electric Rbers, TE's and Wr's and, and, and....wouldn't you call me a homer?!?!

Just sayin'............

Chad

If Tiller kept pushing Jantz in practice, sure why not? From the practice videos they release and the "insiders" it sounded/looked like Jantz was taking most of the snaps anyways.
It tells me they wanted more competition at the spot. If Jantz knew he had the spot locked up, do you really think he'd be trying as hard as if he had some true competition?
And to be fair, Tiller wasn't competing, he was practicing.

And if you told me that Iowa was bigger, faster, quicker, and had 7 legitimate BCS level players in the secondary (when you only need 4) with electric RBs, TEs and WRs, I would just shrug it off and say, "don't you guys have that every year?"
In fact, I think this is the first year in quite some time, that I haven't heard hawk fans saying they are legitimate national title contenders or had the Rose Bowl locked up.
I'm just so used to it.


Did you really make an account on Panther Nation just to argue with a Cyclone fan?

[John Elway Was A Joke]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I find all of this trash talk to be hilarious. I see Panther fans talking badly about ISU's winning percentage against B12 teams, hilarious.

Division 2 is not the same as playing Texas, A&M, Oklahoma, OKState, etc. every damn year.

Know your place, junior division.

[06panther10]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I find all of this trash talk to be hilarious. I see Panther fans talking badly about ISU's winning percentage against B12 teams, hilarious.

Division 2 is not the same as playing Texas, A&M, Oklahoma, OKState, etc. every damn year.

Know your place, junior division.

Speaking of hilarious...


Congratulations on your hundreds and hundreds of prestigious losses. I'm sure Cyclone Nation is proud.

[jegbomb52]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I find all of this trash talk to be hilarious. I see Panther fans talking badly about ISU's winning percentage against B12 teams, hilarious.

Division 2 is not the same as playing Texas, A&M, Oklahoma, OKState, etc. every damn year.

Know your place, junior division.

Has there been one year in Iowa State's history of over a decade of sub mediocrity that even Iowa State has played Texas, A&M, Oklahoma, and OKState? Don't think so...

Keep talking though.

[Mudrafan]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I find all of this trash talk to be hilarious. I see Panther fans talking badly about ISU's winning percentage against B12 teams, hilarious.

Division 2 is not the same as playing Texas, A&M, Oklahoma, OKState, etc. every damn year.

Know your place, junior division.

UNI plays Division I football...idiot.

[95UNIGRAD]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Who cares who Iowa State PLAYS? Unless they BEAT any of those schools more than once in a blue moon, what makes them any better than any of those "directional" schools that get scheduled for "easy" wins in September?

Also, who gives a rip about Iowa in this thread. This is for discussion of the UNI/ISU game on September 3rd, not a place for a Hawk fan to come and continue to belittle ISU and call them hypocrites. Do that junk on your own board. We don't care about your petty rivalry and who is more ineligible or in trouble with the law, or who runs their program better. This is PANTHER nation.