Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

[cmhawks99]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

If Tiller kept pushing Jantz in practice, sure why not? From the practice videos they release and the "insiders" it sounded/looked like Jantz was taking most of the snaps anyways.
It tells me they wanted more competition at the spot. If Jantz knew he had the spot locked up, do you really think he'd be trying as hard as if he had some true competition?
And to be fair, Tiller wasn't competing, he was practicing.

And if you told me that Iowa was bigger, faster, quicker, and had 7 legitimate BCS level players in the secondary (when you only need 4) with electric RBs, TEs and WRs, I would just shrug it off and say, "don't you guys have that every year?"
In fact, I think this is the first year in quite some time, that I haven't heard hawk fans saying they are legitimate national title contenders or had the Rose Bowl locked up.
I'm just so used to it.


Did you really make an account on Panther Nation just to argue with a Cyclone fan?

Wax on Cydave wax on.....that's right out of the cyclone fan hand book. You guys haven't had an original thought in 102 years. Its a neat turn of events when Iowa fans take the game seriously and ISU fans claim a victory....you'll notice how the worm has turned since that phenomenon started to take place too, eh old friend....

But honestly that's old hat and wont ever change with you cats...here is why I signed up UNIgrad, its the same every where with ISU fans. I've been hearing about UNI being salty so I come over here to find out some stuff and what their prospects are....I'm a junkie after all...and here we are again......

Quite frankly I don't know what to expect form Iowa and I wont until the season starts. Its all about attitude and focus with them. They have talent, same with UNI I'd wager...but here I have a guy telling me Jantz was taking most of the snaps all the while every article I have read on the subject suggests its been a tight battle and equal reps.....hmmmm?!

Also Tiller was there to "push" Jantz, even though he was likely to be ineligible (gee I guess no one knew that) and its to much to expect a QB for a BCS school to be pushing himself his FIRST year on campus?!?!.....yep things are looking snappy.

I'm through...if you can't see the flaws in that logic train so be it.

Chad

[cydave]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Wax on Cydave wax on.....that's right out of the cyclone fan hand book. You guys haven't had an original thought in 102 years. Its a neat turn of events when Iowa fans take the game seriously and ISU fans claim a victory....you'll notice how the worm has turned since that phenomenon started to take place too, eh old friend....

But honestly that's old hat and wont ever change with you cats...here is why I signed up UNIgrad, its the same every where with ISU fans. I've been hearing about UNI being salty so I come over here to find out some stuff and what their prospects are....I'm a junkie after all...and here we are again......

Quite frankly I don't know what to expect form Iowa and I wont until the season starts. Its all about attitude and focus with them. They have talent, same with UNI I'd wager...but here I have a guy telling me Jantz was taking most of the snaps all the while every article I have read on the subject suggests its been a tight battle and equal reps.....hmmmm?!

Also Tiller was there to "push" Jantz, even though he was likely to be ineligible (gee I guess no one knew that) and its to much to expect a QB for a BCS school to be pushing himself his FIRST year on campus?!?!.....yep things are looking snappy.

I'm through...if you can't see the flaws in that logic train so be it.

Chad

Jantz started taking most of the snaps as of last Wednesday. The OC even said that Jantz probably would have been more surprised if he hadn't gotten the nod over Tiller, with the way things were panning out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty3drPM17Qs

Why wouldn't you want competition at positions? Are you telling me that since they are D-1 athletes, they don't need to be pushed?!? These are 18-19 year old kids, not professional athletes. Doesn't matter what position, what school, or what conference, kids/athletes in general need to be pushed to be their best.

Tiller was there to fight for a starting spot. Did he know he would be ineligible? I don't know. Were the coaches aware of his grade issues? They should. Did the coaches know he wouldn't be ineligible come this season? I don't know. Why did it take so long to declare him academically ineligible since Aug 10th? Maybe they were trying to appeal the grades? I don't know.

I'm still waiting to hear what other "interesting" things have been happening down in Ames in the last couple of months. You said there were "lots."

[John Elway Was A Joke]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

UNI plays Division I football...idiot.

Are we confused what major college football is? For future reference, the next time you walk into the dome to see a heated game between your beloved Panthers and Southwest Missouri State (taking a shot in the dark as to what teams UNI actually plays), look around you and take mental notes as to what you see, for that is not what major college football is.

Don't get me wrong, it's cute, but the reality of the fact is that a game at the dome is closer to a high school game then a B12 game.

[06panther10]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Are we confused what major college football is? For future reference, the next time you walk into the dome to see a heated game between your beloved Panthers and Southwest Missouri State (taking a shot in the dark as to what teams UNI actually plays), look around you and take mental notes as to what you see, for that is not what major college football is.

Don't get me wrong, it's cute, but the reality of the fact is that a game at the dome is closer to a high school game then a B12 game.

Substitute the UNI Dome for Jack Trice Stadium and your point still stands.

[UNIGrainer]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I find all of this trash talk to be hilarious. I see Panther fans talking badly about ISU's winning percentage against B12 teams, hilarious.

Division 2 is not the same as playing Texas, A&M, Oklahoma, OKState, etc. every damn year.

Know your place, junior division.

Lol....

Anyway, does anyone know if tickets can still be bought in the UNI section for this game?

[Beaker416]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Are we confused what major college football is? For future reference, the next time you walk into the dome to see a heated game between your beloved Panthers and Southwest Missouri State (taking a shot in the dark as to what teams UNI actually plays), look around you and take mental notes as to what you see, for that is not what major college football is.

Don't get me wrong, it's cute, but the reality of the fact is that a game at the dome is closer to a high school game then a B12 game.

Enjoy your time in the MAC in 2013 big important person playing such illustrious teams as Central Michigan, Western Michigan and Miami of Ohio.

[95UNIGRAD]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

I do find this talking down to UNI football by JEWAJ (acronym) hilarious. The Big XXII (well, soon to be 8 or 9) won't last another five years. All of the "power" teams (A&M, Mizzou, Okie, Okie State) will be in the SEC or another league by then, and the Big XXII will no longer exist. Losing your conference title game is HUGE. Why exactly would the top schools in that league stick around and add 2-3 decent programs instead of going to a league of superstars, tons of conference money, and title games?

I used to be an ISU fan growing up. Used to be. I'm just calling it as I see it. Other than the handful of times UNI has played them, I've wished them well. I just don't see a bright future for ISU football as a low revenue, low spending program. Trying to talk down to someone else's fans on their board when that's your situation is a little bit sad.

[Panther/Statesman]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Listening to ISU fans beat their chests about being members of the B-12 is a little like the scrawny kid the neighborhood tough squad keeps around for laughs shooting off his mouth about rough he is, until one day he turns around and his buddies aren't there...

I've said it before, but there isn't that much difference between a bottom dweller in a BCS conference and a good FCS team. Scholarship numbers? Sure. Smaller budgets mean fewer scholies. But as far as the first two squads are concerned, the talent level is similar.

Broken down to its most basic level, yes, UNI can beat ISU. Saying they don't have to worry about UNI is whistling past the graveyard. And if UNI wins by 1 or 20, clones fear that is where their season will head with a loss.

What is disturbing and that people are starting to notice is athletes with attitude and legal problems are being retained on the team, with minimal consequences. Is that really what Rhodes brings to the program?

Now, I'm going to be in Ames to tailgate, but my credit card hasn't been charged for the tickets yet. Time to make other arrangements? I'll be in Iowa for other reasons, but we sure would like to see the Panther's opener.

[UNI83]

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Now, I'm going to be in Ames to tailgate, but my credit card hasn't been charged for the tickets yet. Time to make other arrangements? I'll be in Iowa for other reasons, but we sure would like to see the Panther's opener.

Send your complaint to the PSC, and athletic department on that, I'm being serious. The ticket office won't get you anywhere, because they have zero control. Send your complaint to anyone and everyone in the PSC/athletic department letting them know that the fact you don't know if you have ISU tickets yet is unacceptable.

[Panther-Sheik]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Are we confused what major college football is? For future reference, the next time you walk into the dome to see a heated game between your beloved Panthers and Southwest Missouri State (taking a shot in the dark as to what teams UNI actually plays), look around you and take mental notes as to what you see, for that is not what major college football is.

Don't get me wrong, it's cute, but the reality of the fact is that a game at the dome is closer to a high school game then a B12 game.

Losing to good football teams is not the criteria for playing "major college football", Elway. If it were, then ISU could easily make this claim because they are among the best at it. But then so could almost every FCS or even FBS team out there. UNI plays Wisky and Iowa next year. Are they playing "major college football" then? ISU is a bad program and always has been. And, before you start with the seminar comeback...no, a decent or even "good" season every decade doesn't somehow raise the level of your program. If anything, it only cements it as a bad program. Another unproveable fact is that ISU is very fortunate that they were selected as a member of the Big 12 way back when. If the conference were forming today instead of desolving, do you really think that they would ask Iowa State to be a charter member? ISU is a fish out of water in "major college football" and will forever be...at least until they are kicked out of "major college football". It is coming, I'm afraid, sooner rather than later. So be careful with your tags and labels you throw around because the mirror can be a b!tch when you actually have to look in it. Elway, you might want to shine up your mirror a bit. I think yours is pretty dingy right now and in desperate need of a good cleaning.

[Cat80]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

Are we confused what major college football is? For future reference, the next time you walk into the dome to see a heated game between your beloved Panthers and Southwest Missouri State (taking a shot in the dark as to what teams UNI actually plays), look around you and take mental notes as to what you see, for that is not what major college football is.

Don't get me wrong, it's cute, but the reality of the fact is that a game at the dome is closer to a high school game then a B12 game.

The issue isn't the FCS level that UNI plays in, but the refusal of Iowa State and its' fans to compete at a 'major' level. Losing hundreds of games over as many years does not make a 'major' program. It seems YOU are confused over what major college football is because ISU does not compete in it. When UNI defeats ISU this season, or whenever it happens, it will be a nice win, but not a win against a major college football program. Also, while UNI will be playing at Wisconsin for a one and done, didn't ISU have a game owed by Wisconsin at Ames bought out a few years ago so the Badgers didn't have to play in Ames? Seems in that regard ISU and UNI are closer than ISU and Wisconsin.

[cydave]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

The issue isn't the FCS level that UNI plays in, but the refusal of Iowa State and its' fans to compete at a 'major' level. Losing hundreds of games over as many years does not make a 'major' program. It seems YOU are confused over what major college football is because ISU does not compete in it. When UNI defeats ISU this season, or whenever it happens, it will be a nice win, but not a win against a major college football program. Also, while UNI will be playing at Wisconsin for a one and done, didn't ISU have a game owed by Wisconsin at Ames bought out a few years ago so the Badgers didn't have to play in Ames? Seems in that regard ISU and UNI are closer than ISU and Wisconsin.

That's news to me... Not saying it didn't happen, but I don't remember hearing about that. What year did this happen?

[Twin Cities Panther]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

That's news to me... Not saying it didn't happen, but I don't remember hearing about that. What year did this happen?

You have to be a vegetarian as you are a master of avoiding the meat of every issue.

When an FCS program whips the clowns, it hardly warrants a mention in the Sunday sports section. Years later, the national sports media still talks about Ap State's win at Michigan. See the difference? See the point the previous poster was attempting to make? Another of the 101,000 reasons you are called clowns!

[cydave]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

You have to be a vegetarian as you are a master of avoiding the meat of every issue.

When an FCS program whips the clowns, it hardly warrants a mention in the Sunday sports section. Years later, the national sports media still talks about Ap State's win at Michigan. See the difference? See the point the previous poster was attempting to make? Another of the 101,000 reasons you are called clowns!

You're about as worthless as they come. I really despise fans like yourself. You're not a fan of the panthers, you're just a person wearing UNI clothes talking smack to opposing teams.

Now, like I said, lead me to the article that talks about the Wisconsin/ISU game. I'm not avoiding the issue at all, if I was, I wouldn't have even replied to that comment. Idiot.

And seriously, drop the clowns thing. It doesn't hurt our feelings, it doesn't do anything besides make you look and sound like an idiot that's 16 years old that didn't get what they wanted.

[cydave]

Re: Can the Panthers take down ISU on Sep 3rd?

As far as that John Elway is a Joke guy, I don't even know who it is. I'm staying out of that argument.
And yes, I realize Michigan>>>ISU.