Sonie

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Sonie

Well, if the article in the Register is accurate, it appears that Sonie was more of a victim in this case than an instigator.

I'm glad to see that so many hard core Panther football fans were giving VS the benefit of the doubt today.

I can just picture him in his recliner reading his book and enjoying a cup of tea when some young hoodlums came in and knifed him. I agree that in the end he was the victim, but it doesnt mean he was in the right. Overall you just hope for him to be ok, and not just for football.

[panther-state]

Re: Sonie

Well, if the article in the Register is accurate, it appears that Sonie was more of a victim in this case than an instigator.

And that he probably will not play.

We do have a pretty experienced backup in Andre Martin if he does miss any time

Also I thought Andre Martin was a safety, although I'm sure he is still a capable CB.

[Newsbreaker]

Re: Sonie

Good God. I hope he's okay. Great start to a championship week.

[UNIChippewa]

Re: Sonie

I can just picture him in his recliner reading his book and enjoying a cup of tea when some young hoodlums came in and knifed him. I agree that in the end he was the victim, but it doesnt mean he was in the right. Overall you just hope for him to be ok, and not just for football.

Based on what we know so far about what happened last night, please tell me how he was in the wrong.

[Luckycat]

Re: Sonie

I can just picture him in his recliner reading his book and enjoying a cup of tea when some young hoodlums came in and knifed him. I agree that in the end he was the victim, but it doesnt mean he was in the right. Overall you just hope for him to be ok, and not just for football.

But you obviously assumed he was in the wrong. Why is that? Is it possible that VS was visiting friends in their house and some thugs tried to crash the party? Is he in the wrong or in the right in that scenario? Why do you and others on here go immediately to the "dark side" and then add, "but let's wait for the facts to come out?" It seems we've gone to "guilty until proven innocent" when it comes to student athletes. I agree that these guys must avoid situations where trouble may be lurking----but there are times when trouble may find you no matter what.

[clenz]

Re: Sonie

Johnny Gray
Victor Williams
Evan Tecklenberg's 3 or 4 chances
Misha Danilov
Zach Davis suspension
Brandon Keith gets tased in a night club fight. Others arrested. Cop on permanent disability.
Sonie gets stabbed by being in a horrible situation in the middle of the night.

All of that since April 2008. Sure I am missing some. Notice how on field performance and these incidents have gone hand in hand...

Johnny was bad and was booted instantly

Wasn't Victor acquitted?...there are no charges filed on the Iowa Courts database...

Tecklenberg should have been booted, and was

Zach Davis was/is a freaking meat head...For all the defending of alcohol related crimes that goes on, I would think his MIP wouldn't be a big deal"...I would bet every school (JCC, NAIA, any NCAA team) has more than a handful of kids with MIP/Pub Intox

Brandon wasn't on the team anymore when that happened...


BC...just stay away from football topics. It's clear you don't care for the football program.

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Sonie

that article seemed to go out of the way to clear sonie of any wrongdoing, he wasnt even at a bar. pretty hard to blame him for much at this point.

Ive always carried a knife with me, for convenience more than anything. i would never pull it in a fight though. why even bring the risk of lethal injury into equation?

[9YRPLAN]

Re: Sonie

Who did you mistake him for?

touche, dammit

[Casey'sitsallgood]

Re: Sonie

"guilty until proven innocent"

Don't you know it's 2011? Duh.

[ESands12 Nation]

Re: Sonie

And that he probably will not play.



Also I thought Andre Martin was a safety, although I'm sure he is still a capable CB.

Andre played corner, then last year started at safety but now the DB coach switched him back to corner. He played some corner on Saturday for JJ Swain. I personally like him playing Safety but I guess thats why Im not the coach.

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Sonie

Based on what we know so far about what happened last night, please tell me how he was in the wrong.

So what you're saying is, Sonie was minding his own business, someone was causing trouble and thought he looked like the best person to stab?

Yes he wasn't at a bar, but whose house was it, and what was going on at said residence? When things escalated, why was he the person who got stabbed?

I'm just saying that at some point there was a poor decision made, unless the hoodlum was mental and Sonie was a random target.

I already said I hope be recovers, and it isn't like I called for his dismissal. I personally doubt he was completely innocent, but my opinion really doesn't matter.

[UNIMIS2001]

Re: Sonie

I can just picture him in his recliner reading his book and enjoying a cup of tea when some young hoodlums came in and knifed him. I agree that in the end he was the victim, but it doesnt mean he was in the right. Overall you just hope for him to be ok, and not just for football.

So you are telling me that if a group of people come to a place you are at and are not welcome you wouldn't have some choice words to them? Give me a break, we were all young and in college (or high school) and have probably been put in this situation and ran our mouth. I know I have been in that situation and when I think about it now I am damn lucky nothing happened to me.

Give the guy a freaking break!

[panther1]

Re: Sonie

So you are telling me that if a group of people come to a place you are at and are not welcome you wouldn't have some choice words to them? Give me a break, we were all young and in college (or high school) and have probably been put in this situation and ran our mouth. I know I have been in that situation and when I think about it now I am damn lucky nothing happened to me.

Give the guy a freaking break!

True, most of us have been in similar situations. The difference is that most of us did not get to the point of a stabbing. Sonie is a talented athlete, but has a problem with keeping his mouth shut. That gets you in trouble when the other party has a weapon.

Sonie may have been completely 'in the right' to say/do whatever he did to get stabbed from a legal standpoint. From a commonsense standpoint something tells me he may have been lacking this morning. (Sounds similar to the Paterno incident, doesn't it?)

note: If this were any other current Panther, I would have a different opinion, but this kid just can't keep his mouth shut. I would guess that he has already set the single-season school record for 'dumb' Personal Fouls...he's not out there making aggressive late hits or roughing the passer either, he just keeps opening his mouth too much. Hopefully he physically recovers quickly and fully but takes away a lesson from this incident.

[TravelingPanther]

Re: Sonie

So you are telling me that if a group of people come to a place you are at and are not welcome you wouldn't have some choice words to them? Give me a break, we were all young and in college (or high school) and have probably been put in this situation and ran our mouth. I know I have been in that situation and when I think about it now I am damn lucky nothing happened to me.

Give the guy a freaking break!

Given the times, my position on the team, the fact it is late on a Sat night, I would hope I would think better of escalating the situation. We have all done dumb stuff. I've never said I hadn't. I just said that I am of the opinion that he was not a random victim and innocent bystander.

[mwatje]

Re: Sonie

A lot of absolute morons on here assigning blame to something of which they have zero knowledge. So so so so so embarrassed by this entire thread. What a joke.