Part of Our Problem...the MVFC is Weak

[mikewphoto]

Re: Part of Our Problem...the MVFC is Weak

A quick look around here, and we mainly graduate a bunch of hippies who are hoping to find a trust fund.

[porkchop]

Re: Part of Our Problem...the MVFC is Weak

While teachers do a lot of great things in society, one thing they are not really know for is generating great wealth that later gets donated to their alma mater.

And accountants that graduate from our excellent MBA program are too tight to donate, probably why they're great financial minds

[FargoPanther]

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The short list of differences between NDSU & UNI's environment

1. Fargo is the place to be in ND, unless you are heading to Williston to work the gas fields. Des Moines is the place to be in Iowa.

2. NDSU is the show in ND, with the Sioux being a distant second (unless you are a hockey honk). UNI is the third wheel at best - fourth place after Nebraska in western Iowa

3. UNI has been a general university for about 35 years. NDSU has been a research institution since its founding. It offers 46 Doctoral Programs & 66 Master programs. UNI offers 2 Doctoral programs & 10 Masters programs. Those types of degrees generally produce more high earners than a teaching college does = more donations over time, etc. The entire thing becomes self perpetuating.

Excuses.

[lakesbison]

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I still think the MVFC is a beast, and a team that gets through the schedule is beat up hard.... UNI ran into a buzzsaw in montana.

but overall, if ILL state was in the playoffs, and goes 1-1 and uni is 1-1 and NDSU is 4-0 then 6-2 doesnt look so bad.

5-1 wont look that bad either

[SteinPizza]

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I still think the MVFC is a beast, and a team that gets through the schedule is beat up hard.... UNI ran into a buzzsaw in montana.

but overall, if ILL state was in the playoffs, and goes 1-1 and uni is 1-1 and NDSU is 4-0 then 6-2 doesnt look so bad.

5-1 wont look that bad either

I don't buy that for two reasons:

1. EVERY conference fanbase says that. They can't all be right, can they? It's the same tired line I've heard knowledge-challenged defenders of the Big Ten spout off on for years. I root for the Big Ten, but if you have any objectivity at all you realize that league sucks compared to the SEC, Big 12, etc. in most years. Take that back...the Big Ten sucks compared to the SEC every year.

2. Like I said at the beginning, our top couple of teams are usually pretty good every year. BUT, what is it about the juggernaut of W. Illinois, Illinois State, InSU, YSU (but now surging) and SIU (declining) that should worry anyone but a DII head coach?

[Chitown Panther]

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I'm scratching my head on how WIU/SIU get lumped into the poke fun category. Hard to be in the playoffs every year....

FCS is all about home games.

07 UNI and SIU hit the Flacco buzz-saw

08 UNI losing to Richmond was a joke.

9 times out of 10 in playoffs better team wins. The seeding (home team) is almost always correct. Where the committee may be in error is the last couple teams in.

[mikewphoto]

Re: Part of Our Problem...the MVFC is Weak

I'm scratching my head on how WIU/SIU get lumped into the poke fun category. Hard to be in the playoffs every year....

FCS is all about home games.

07 UNI and SIU hit the Flacco buzz-saw

08 UNI losing to Richmond was a joke.

9 times out of 10 in playoffs better team wins. The seeding (home team) is almost always correct. Where the committee may be in error is the last couple teams in.

This