NDSU Champions vs UNI 10/5

[JayJ79]

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I found a newspaper quote (from interview during spring practices of 2011) where Farley mentioned other schools "buying wins" by hiring UNI guys (NDSU, Mo State, WIU, etc.). Not sure why that makes him a "********" or whatever. To me, that's just calling a spade a spade.

[BisoninNWMN]

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I found a newspaper quote (from interview during spring practices of 2011) where Farley mentioned other schools "buying wins" by hiring UNI guys (NDSU, Mo State, WIU, etc.). Not sure why that makes him a "dickhead" or whatever. To me, that's just calling a spade a spade.

Coach Klieman made a good career move. All you guys on here think it is NDSU "buying" wins?.......LMAO

You think any other Valley coach would say that?

Obviously it was a better job than the one he had. I suppose it chapped Farley's butt that Klieman made more $$ as a D-Back coach compared to DC at UNI.

Whatever. I cannot wait for tomorrow's game to see which team is the best this year.

Bison 31-14

[lakesbison]

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Uni fans in fargo goto the HUB 5 FINGER DEATH PUNCH CONCERT...its a party....then head downtown!

[Panther'73]

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Bizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzon fans, much like Tavern Hawks, are not terribly interested in 'documentation' and 'facts'...

You know better than that '73...

True BCPanther

[06panther10]

Coach Klieman made a good career move. All you guys on here think it is NDSU "buying" wins?.......LMAO

You think any other Valley coach would say that?

Obviously it was a better job than the one he had. I suppose it chapped Farley's butt that Klieman made more $$ as a D-Back coach compared to DC at UNI.

Whatever. I cannot wait for tomorrow's game to see which team is the best this year.

Bison 31-14

Klieman was not DC at UNI.

He was paid as a position coach because thats what he was.

[FargoBison]

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Lakes, I'll echo what Panther-State said above. The only guy on that list who has a realistic shot to play on Sundays in Williams. That said, someone can come out of nowhere to make an impact. The best UNI examples of that are Austin Howard, Willie Beaman, and Kurt Warner. All guys who were undrafted, and went on to make an impact on their teams (and Kurt in a damn big, Hall Of Fame type way). Note: I'd include LJ Fort, but he hasn't made a roster this year, let alone make an impact. I could be missing others too (TE who played for the Cowboys and Seahawks a few years ago, name escapes me).

I hope all your guys above do make it, since it enhances the image of the conference as whole.

I think Billy Turner has a great shot...honestly I think he is NDSU's best pro prospect.

[FOTY]

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Klieman was not DC at UNI.

He was paid as a position coach because thats what he was.

Actually, he was as much of a DC that Farley would allow.... For two seasons.

Courier article
Wiki
UNI 2009 Media Guide

[11>1]

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I found a newspaper quote (from interview during spring practices of 2011) where Farley mentioned other schools "buying wins" by hiring UNI guys (NDSU, Mo State, WIU, etc.). Not sure why that makes him a "********" or whatever. To me, that's just calling a spade a spade.

Hmmm, how is that working out for MO St. & WIU? Maybe UNI should take a page out of NDSU's book and buy themselves some championship wins then. No? Just thinking out loud here.

[SteinPizza]

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Hate to say it, but I have to side with the NDSU folks on the Klieman thing. There's no socialist style salary cap in coaching. If he got more money, to go to a championship caliber program, and he likes the situation, why frackin' not??? They won a NC, so at least part of it's working out. I cringed when I heard about Farley's comments, because as a coach, he should realize this is competition, and well within any rule (written or unwritten).

Also, there no such damn thing as "buying a championship" period (unless you're paying players). If as a program you are underfunded compared to your conference peers, rivals, etc...THEN GO RAISE MORE DAMN MONEY. Do something to better your situation, enhance your image, make the program a more appealing destination, etc. Or, leave said underfunded program for a better job.

Sorry for making a few here spit up their Kool Aid on gameday. That's the last remotely pro NDSU thing I'll post, so Go Panthers.

[Born-a-Panther]

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Hate to say it, but I have to side with the NDSU folks on the Klieman thing. There's no socialist style salary cap in coaching. If he got more money, to go to a championship caliber program, and he likes the situation, why frackin' not??? They won a NC, so at least part of it's working out. I cringed when I heard about Farley's comments, because as a coach, he should realize this is competition, and well within any rule (written or unwritten).

Also, there no such damn thing as "buying a championship" period (unless you're paying players). If as a program you are underfunded compared to your conference peers, rivals, etc...THEN GO RAISE MORE DAMN MONEY. Do something to better your situation, enhance your image, make the program a more appealing destination, etc. Or, leave said underfunded program for a better job.

Sorry for making a few here spit up their Kool Aid on gameday. That's the last remotely pro NDSU thing I'll post, so Go Panthers.

In all fairness ... It is a heck of a lot easier for NDSU to raise funds in North Dakota than it is for us in our market. Some people still don't seem to realize the difference.

[UNIdad]

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I've grown weary of the "banter" with NDSU fans in this thread.

Back to the other thread to discuss what has to happen for UNI to win.

[lakesbison]

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Frisco Cruiser Bus. Southwest lot.....cya there cappy!

[SteinPizza]

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In all fairness ... It is a heck of a lot easier for NDSU to raise funds in North Dakota than it is for us in our market. Some people still don't seem to realize the difference.

True, no argument there. My issue is with the "woe is me" crowd who bemoan that NDSU was willing to pay Klieman more, or somehow think NDSU or Mo. State are breaking unwritten rules by hiring away our assistants. B...effing...S. If someone tried to start a business with that attitude, it's shelf life would be pretty damn short. Nothing personal BAP, or against Farley either. It's the general mindset I have an issue with.

I'm surprised Farley would take that tack, but apparently he did. There are different circumstances, but we're in the same division, same conference, etc. If anything, we should have a little better shot at recruiting, since UNI is far more proximate to population centers than North Dakota. Recruiting is the heart of the matter in college sports, less so X's and O's.

[11>1]

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Hate to say it, but I have to side with the NDSU folks on the Klieman thing. There's no socialist style salary cap in coaching. If he got more money, to go to a championship caliber program, and he likes the situation, why frackin' not??? They won a NC, so at least part of it's working out. I cringed when I heard about Farley's comments, because as a coach, he should realize this is competition, and well within any rule (written or unwritten).

Also, there no such damn thing as "buying a championship" period (unless you're paying players). If as a program you are underfunded compared to your conference peers, rivals, etc...THEN GO RAISE MORE DAMN MONEY. Do something to better your situation, enhance your image, make the program a more appealing destination, etc. Or, leave said underfunded program for a better job.

Sorry for making a few here spit up their Kool Aid on gameday. That's the last remotely pro NDSU thing I'll post, so Go Panthers.

This^
Except the "Go Panther" part of course.

[lakesbison]

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Wow down 13 coming back to win you guys did nothing wrong NDSU just won't lose despite 2 kickoff fumbles and missed INT PICK 6...

I AM SHOCKED fun seeing cappy and unipanther peace!!