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  • Re: UNI vs NDSU

    Originally posted by SteinPizza View Post
    I'm going to file this post in the crock of BS hall of fame, or at least the part about stealing coaches. For the 80th time, we live in a free market economy. If someone is willing to pay your employees more, THEN DO SOMETHING TO BRING IN MORE $%&# MONEY. Also, look at the reasons people have left, AND FIX THEM. Capitalism trumps hometown sports fandom garbage 8 days a weeks, and always will.

    Also, it's about winning games. Are the Bison breaking NCAA rules? Unless you can prove that, then stow the stuff about bringing in kids from elsewhere. I'd love to see UNI do more of that. Guess how many games we'd win with nothing but doughy, small town Iowa kids on our team? About two per year, if we were lucky.
    so you're a-okay with the McDermott situation too, right? it's a free market and they didn't break any NCAA rules.

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      Originally posted by JayJ79 View Post
      so you're a-okay with the McDermott situation too, right? it's a free market and they didn't break any NCAA rules.
      The only problem I had with the McD issue was with Jake and Dannen. They rolled over and didn't insist on the conference transfer rule being enforced. That's on them. The McD's were acting in their own self interest, which there is nothing wrong with.

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      • Re: UNI vs NDSU

        Originally posted by JayJ79 View Post
        so you're a-okay with the McDermott situation too, right? it's a free market and they didn't break any NCAA rules.
        He probably is. Dougie was a small town iowa boy.

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        • Re: UNI vs NDSU

          Originally posted by UNIDebo View Post
          He probably is. Dougie was a small town iowa boy.
          Read my post. I said we'd win two games a year with roster of nothing but doughy small town Iowa kids. IMO, that's pretty accurate. You can't win with that, period. In a state like Iowa (or ND), you need players from outside to succeed. If you don't recognize that, then have fun trying it (and losing). Also, if you believe that, then I have some business transactions I'd love to discuss.

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            Agree with stein....reason 2 of our starting dbs are from fla....
            "We're not an ordinary school," said Fort. "We have tradition. We have a good team year after year. We rebuild, and it doesn't matter who we have coming back."

            dti

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            • Re: UNI vs NDSU

              Originally posted by SteinPizza View Post
              Read my post. I said we'd win two games a year with roster of nothing but doughy small town Iowa kids. IMO, that's pretty accurate. You can't win with that, period. In a state like Iowa (or ND), you need players from outside to succeed. If you don't recognize that, then have fun trying it (and losing). Also, if you believe that, then I have some business transactions I'd love to discuss.
              I was just doing alittle all in fun

              No, I agree, especially in football. The talents that get overlooked by FBS teams is huge. Going out and finding under radars guys is critical.

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              • Re: UNI vs NDSU

                Originally posted by SteinPizza View Post
                I'm going to file this post in the crock of BS hall of fame, or at least the part about stealing coaches. For the 80th time, we live in a free market economy. If someone is willing to pay your employees more, THEN DO SOMETHING TO BRING IN MORE $%&# MONEY. Also, look at the reasons people have left, AND FIX THEM. Capitalism trumps hometown sports fandom garbage 8 days a weeks, and always will.

                Also, it's about winning games. Are the Bison breaking NCAA rules? Unless you can prove that, then stow the stuff about bringing in kids from elsewhere. I'd love to see UNI do more of that. Guess how many games we'd win with nothing but doughy, small town Iowa kids on our team? About two per year, if we were lucky.
                It's not good for the conference for schools to be taking kids & coaches away from other member schools. It drives the price up & can be detrimental to the kids on both sides of the equation. I stand by my original statement. You are entitled to your own opinion although it is wrong

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                • Re: UNI vs NDSU

                  I might have missed it but didn't see any mention of the noise in the hand wringing about what went wrong. It was a MAJOR factor in my opinion. It had died down when we were up by 2 scores but when they got back in the game in the 4th quarter they were back with a vengeance - I think was the deciding factor in the game. (with the exception of the 2 flags on third down stops) My ears are still ringing. I think it was the loudest I have ever heard including Memorial in Lincoln and Arrowhead. The crowd is close and they are on all four sides. Players have trouble hearing in the huddle and lose the advantage of a snap count. And then the announcer screaming "you are the strength of the herd" whipping the crowd up. It wears on you.

                  Before this weekend I respected the bison before for what they accomplished - I now hate them. Congratulations screaming maniac bison fans. I hope to never step foot on the tundra again but I suspect we might be back there in December.

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                  • Re: UNI vs NDSU

                    Of course the noise was a factor. And I'm totally jealous of NDSU for not only the numbers of their fanbase (which is partly due to the lack of competition in the area from FBS/BCS teams), but the fact that their crowd actually cheers (and not just on third downs). It sickens me how often the UNIdome is dead silent when we are on defense. (while we are on offense, the band is often playing away, but anyway).

                    However, apart from that one time in the first half where not only did UNI burn a t/o, but then they got a delay-of-game right AFTER the t/o, I thought the team did alright with handling the noise.

                    And besides, it isn't really worth "hand-wringing" about, as that isn't something that "went wrong", it's just part of playing on the road that you have to deal with. (I supposed dealing with blind and/or biased officials is also something that you just have to deal with, but that's different)

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                      I'm envious of the packed arena, the noise, the crowd's football acumen on when to be loud, the tailgating - which is all packed in two lots behind the stadium forming one big party instead of strung across 40 acres with a half empty gold lot in between.

                      Are you a teacher or professor?- it seems like you are grading my English assignment - you don't like how I structured my comments. Or are you simply half agreeing with me while being argumentative? I guess that's what you get with alumnus from the Iowa state teaching college or whatever they used to call it before you correct me.

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                      • Re: UNI vs NDSU

                        [QUOTE=JayJ79;362664]Of course the noise was a factor. And I'm totally jealous of NDSU for not only the numbers of their fanbase (which is partly due to the lack of competition in the area from FBS/BCS teams), but the fact that their crowd actually cheers (and not just on third downs). It sickens me how often the UNIdome is dead silent when we are on defense. (while we are on offense, the band is often playing away, but anyway).

                        However, apart from that one time in the first half where not only did UNI burn a t/o, but then they got a delay-of-game right AFTER the t/o, I thought the team did alright with handling the noise.

                        And besides, it isn't really worth "hand-wringing" about, as that isn't something that "went wrong", it's just part of playing on the road that you have to deal with. (I supposed dealing with blind and/or biased officials is also something that you just have to deal with, but that's different)[/Q

                        NDSU has true fans. There are no other options in ND unless you enjoy hunting or cow tipping > football. At UNI, we have too many fans that are influenced by the local media by getting wrapped up into the media hype that is Iowa & ISU. UNI needs undivided attention like NDSU has.

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                        • Re: UNI vs NDSU

                          I just want 16,000 people inthe Dome next weekend. It's Flying Saluki Dog week.
                          "10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you react to what happens."

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                          • Re: UNI vs NDSU

                            We'll get a good crowd. Probably 15K.
                            Originally posted by TH1974
                            This guy was all-UNI, and wanted to show it by pretending to play a non-existant musical instrument in public.

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                            • Re: UNI vs NDSU

                              Originally posted by Codytwo View Post
                              Any updates on Jake Farley this morning?
                              he had surgery last night at Sanford in Fargo, too bad for him Jake is a fantastic linebacker is he a Senior?

                              UNI and NDSU are very evenly matched, it was a fun game talked some friendly smack and overall grat game.

                              refs were bad all around, bad spots, etc....

                              plus they picked it on a Gameday!!

                              I was totally impressed with the players from both teams keeping their cool and no dumb PF penalties for fighting.

                              good luck the rest of the way

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                              • Re: UNI vs NDSU

                                Originally posted by Mudrafan View Post
                                It's not good for the conference for schools to be taking kids & coaches away from other member schools. It drives the price up & can be detrimental to the kids on both sides of the equation. I stand by my original statement. You are entitled to your own opinion although it is wrong
                                The funny thing is your user name is Mudrafan who happens to be an ex NDSU coach.

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