DL cut loose by Rhodes

[UNI92]

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Very true...
Nasty, mean, push the limits type of player is probably what I was referring to.
"Thugs" can be punks and worthless human beings with very few redeemable qualities

[panther-state]

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I'm all for badasses who love to hit guys and be very physical on the line.

But I'd never advocate having someone who would be a detriment to the program. Tough to make assumptions about the situation that led to his dismissal but I have a hard time believing that Coe would add anything positive to the team other than his skills as a player. Farley has shown in the past that he is reluctant to keep players around if they risk tarnishing the reputation of our program so I have a hard time believing he's been in serious contact with Coe about joining.

[arealcat]

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It's not like we've never given "second chances" before. Sometimes these guys pan out -Benny Sapp, sometimes they don't and are forgotten about - Hakim Hill

[FOTY]

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It's not like we've never given "second chances" before. Sometimes these guys pan out -Benny Sapp, sometimes they don't and are forgotten about - Hakim Hill

Exactly my thought. Whatever agreement they had with Sapp, look it up, dust it off, and if Coe is good enough to make a difference, offer him the same deal.

[Kyle]

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We are going to be loaded next year. The last thing we need is a problem child to stir up trouble off the field. This team is already good enough to win the whole thing.

Also, Benny Sapp was NFL caliber talent. Coe is barley good enough to play on the worst team in the big 12. The risk vs reward proposition was very different.

[9YRPLAN]

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Thug tendencies aside, i dont want him because he is lazy.

[achrist70]

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Here's how I see this, Rodney Coe is not Benny Sapp, would he see the field for us? Yes, but I am not sure he is better than Xavier or Mac (I am assuming that Mac gets another year), but at the same time what is our depth on the d line next year after those two and Ales? If you look at 05, 07 and 08 and compare them to other recent teams those teams had so much depth on the d line we could run in 12 guys in there in 07 for the 4 spot with out a ton of drop off. Overall I wouldn't do anything with Coe, but if he were to contact Coach Farley I think that he should take a second or two and at least look at him and his situation.

[arealcat]

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Also, Benny Sapp was NFL caliber talent. Coe is barley good enough to play on the worst team in the big 12. The risk vs reward proposition was very different.

We didn't know he was NFL talent when he came here. If we have a history of taking a look at these kinds of players why are we all so against it now? Makes no sense.

[Kyle]

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Case by case deal.

We are returning a NC caliber team next year and Coe is marginal talent. Not worth the risk.

Also, we don't have a history of taking a chance on players kicked off other teams. I can only think of a couple players in the past 10 years.

[Trapped in California]

Case by case deal.

We are returning a NC caliber team next year and Coe is marginal talent. Not worth the risk.

Also, we don't have a history of taking a chance on players kicked off other teams. I can only think of a couple players in the past 10 years.

I'm not saying the Coe is the solution to our problem. However given our financial disadvantage compared to NDSU and others, we need to take more chances.

From my NSA monitored nexus 5

[arealcat]

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Case by case deal.

We are returning a NC caliber team next year and Coe is marginal talent. Not worth the risk.

Also, we don't have a history of taking a chance on players kicked off other teams. I can only think of a couple players in the past 10 years.

I just named a couple in a previous post, and there has been others. I hope we are a NC caliber team, but that's kind of hard to say after we didn't make the playoffs last year. And the main reason was probably lack of depth/injuries. But yeah let's not at least have a chat with a Big 12 player

[Kyle]

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Take a chance on a player with high level talent when we don't have a loaded roster.

I bet there aren't more than 5 orphan players who received a scholly from UNI in the past 15 years.

[arealcat]

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Take a chance on a player with high level talent when we don't have a loaded roster.

I bet there aren't more than 5 orphan players who received a scholly from UNI in the past 15 years.

That statement has no merit. There simply aren't that many players within close proximity that we can even look at like this situation. But to use your example, that's 1 every 3 years. When's the last one we got? Benny? Sounds like we are past due.

And again you act like we are coming off a NC run. "Loaded" hopefully, but definitely not proven. I wouldn't take it for granted.

[panther-state]

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This isn't Illinois State or Chris Lowery basketball. Trying to build success with players of questionable character will hurt in we long run. Although it's tough to say since we don't know his situation but it just seems risky. Success in a program is just as much about integrity as it is victories. At least in my opinion it is.

[SteinPizza]

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Kinda serious/half in jest question here...

Can a team win a NC without a thug or two?

At some point, a team needs some crazy ass, pyscho, push the limit types of people..especially on defense...

Am I right or wrong?

(Might be politically incorrect to state, but I think there is a lot of truth to it)

What you stated above isn't politically incorrect, because it has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. All good teams need a lot of thugishness to be good, but you're on the wrong side of the ball. The biggest thugs on any team are usually the O linemen. At least overt thugishness, anyway.