MoState hires a coach

[TravelingPanther]

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1 down, 1 to go.

[Luther_Heggs]

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If you are referring to his having Jay Johnson start over Kurt Warner, Johnson was 31-8 over 3 years as an all-conference starter with 3 conference championships and 3 playoff appearances including a semifinal game loss to Youngstown State (other playoff losses were to Boise State and Marshall ft Randy Moss) Warner was 8-4 in his year as a starter with a conference championship and first round playoff loss to Boston University. He was followed each of the next three years by fifth-year starting QB's who would win conference titles as well.

Warner went on to make a heck of a pro career (hopefully Hall of Fame worthy) while Johnson has been very successful as a coach and is currently an Offensive Coordinator at a FBS School.

Yes, I would trust TA to select the best QB as well as develop the others in the program as well.

I remember those years. Warner was clearly the better QB. Ted Geocke used to tell me how in Warner's junior year Coach Allen would not put in Warner to play in a blowout. Apparently Coach Allen had told Warner he would play in the game, but then changed his mind. It was not Coach Allen, but the other coaches that talked Warner out of quiting the team. The other coaches knew what a talent Warner was, thankfully.

So, believe it or not, I would not trust Coach Allen to select the best QB.

[Jonsoup]

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Eric Sanders is coaching high school football with Curt Bradley in Fla these days.

[Mudrafan]

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I remember those years. Warner was clearly the better QB. Ted Geocke used to tell me how in Warner's junior year Coach Allen would not put in Warner to play in a blowout. Apparently Coach Allen had told Warner he would play in the game, but then changed his mind. It was not Coach Allen, but the other coaches that talked Warner out of quiting the team. The other coaches knew what a talent Warner was, thankfully.

So, believe it or not, I would not trust Coach Allen to select the best QB.

This is false....

[Panther-Sheik]

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I can speak from first hand experience that MANY of the players on the team were wishing Warner would get his chance, but knew Allen was tied to Johnson for better or for worse. Lots of "politics" involved.

[Blue42]

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Lots of venom in these threads towards Coach V.

He put a lot of years into UNI football.

It's probably time for some change for both UNI and Coach V.

So I say thanks for all your hard work and best of luck...except for one Saturday a year.

[Purrrrrfect]

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Would be pretty sweet to get TA...be like making a switcheroo with a school...we'd definitely get the better end of that deal.

[Panther-Sheik]

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What's Courtney Messingham doing now? He was a sacrificial lamb at ISU but I don't think he was their problem by a long shot.

[Born-a-Panther]

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Lots of venom in these threads towards Coach V.

He put a lot of years into UNI football.

It's probably time for some change for both UNI and Coach V.

So I say thanks for all your hard work and best of luck...except for one Saturday a year.

Thank you. I wish Coach Verdu nothing but the best. He is a class act, and he will be missed.

Verdu, thanks for your years of dedication to UNI.

[06panther10]

Google search says he is a "offensive quality control" coach at Indiana.

[SteinPizza]

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What's Courtney Messingham doing now? He was a sacrificial lamb at ISU but I don't think he was their problem by a long shot.

The players sure didn't think so. He got thrown under the bus, publically and privately, by a few of them when he left. No offiense to him, but ISU definitely traded up when they hired Mangino.

Like someone (Kyle?) said earlier, get the best guy for the job with the $ you have to spend. Don't get too hung up on someone being an ex Panther, being from the Cedar Valley, etc.

[Panther-Sheik]

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100% agree you get the best guy you can afford. I hadn't heard that the players didn't like Messingham. That is interesting to know. ISU's problems go much deeper than a play caller was my only commentary. Their offense was at least as good or better in many categories last year as it was this year under Mangino. And last year they had Rhodes playing QB roulette, too.

[Kyle]

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I'm not sure how I feel about hiring TA into a coordinator position.

He seemed pretty well checked out during his last press conference, almost like he'd given up. I don't want someone who has lost passion for the game and is looking for cushy gig to take up some time while they float into retirement.

I'd rather find a promising young coach looking to prove themselves with good energy and enthusiasm.

[Panther-Sheik]

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I'm not sure how I feel about hiring TA into a coordinator position.

He seemed pretty well checked out during his last press conference, almost like he'd given up. I don't want someone who has lost passion for the game and is looking for cushy gig to take up some time while they float into retirement.

I'd rather find a promising young coach looking to prove themselves with good energy and enthusiasm.

Pat Grace? Totally kidding. But I do agree with you about TA at this point in his career. Among other things.

[BCPanther]

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I'd love to see somebody that would help Salmon move into a more tempo/speed based offense. We get to play half our games indoors on a fast, fast track and don't have any problems recruiting speed. If we could pair a relentless offense that attacks with speed to go with the defenses we put on the field, we'd be pretty damn salty...