Quarterback 2015??

[run&blade]

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If Bailey starts every game this year uni will be .500 if they are lucky. Fan interest will drop to the point were Dannen will have to do something. You cannot defend his performance on any level, he had zero interest in reading the coverage and making plays with his arm and he never will.

Iowa State's qb is no better. He is flat awful and they are looking at a two win season.

That is the only bright side of last night. I do not understand how adults can look at those players for weeks and think he is a college qb. That carp might work in JUCO or DIII where the talent is so uneven but that is it.

Thank goodness UNI has the new rule where if you leave at half-time you cannot 're-enter. Considering the on the field problems that is like arguing over sunglasses while your spaceship is crashing into the sun. Well done AD, your are really on the ball.

Last night has nothing to do with being outclassed by a power five team. It was about uni trotting another running qb out there will all the passing skills of Helen Keller.

[95UNIGRAD]

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There was no tempo last night, it was the same damn thing as last year. Still took 30 seconds to snap the ball, just didn't huddle.

Really, really frustrated.

And the crazy part is that the insistence upon going no huddle, and then taking 30 seconds anyway, accomplishes one thing: it makes it harder to communicate with everyone if the play is changing. Not to mention it gives a crowd on the road an obvious signal to get loud as we're looking around desperately to get a play going.

Just completely baffled by last night. Very winnable game just wrapped up with a pretty bow and handed over to ISU. I can't believe we were only down 3 at half. Speaks volumes about how little ISU has improved and what the rest of their season might look like.

[DownGoesKansas]

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Any understanding of the second and third QB's performance last night has to come with the understanding it wa happening late on a hot night against a tired unit.

Where the entire town of Ames knew we'd be passing every down........

[unicheer]

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With all these comparisons to Carnes, I had a much stronger feeling last night like I was watching a reincarnation of Tirrell Rennie. Not exactly fond memories.

[claw]

With all these comparisons to Carnes, I had a much stronger feeling last night like I was watching a reincarnation of Tirrell Rennie. Not exactly fond memories.

Rennie threw for 3500 yards, 25 TD, completed 58% of his passes and ran for 2100 yards and 24 TD on top of that. He was asked to make a lot of down field throws he simply couldn't make, and it hurt his perception from the fans. Rennie in this offense, if run the way Davis wants, would be amazing

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[Mudrafan]

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Rennie threw for 3500 yards, 25 TD, completed 58% of his passes and ran for 2100 yards and 24 TD on top of that. He was asked to make a lot of down field throws he simply couldn't make, and it hurt his perception from the fans. Rennie in this offense, if run the way Davis wants, would be amazing

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And yet...still didn't win. You understand that all of the rushing yards are not really all that impressive as it would be rushing yards for the running back if it wasn't for the QB. A QB has to be able to throw...and to throw downfield, hit timing routes, have a feel for the pocket, etc. These running QB's don't have that. Most should be playing wideout.

[run&blade]

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If Rennie ball is what the goal of the new OC is then last night isn't far away from his dream.

It doesn't win in November. Rennie lost to basically Drake in a home playoff game.

Dual threat is a farce. They have no threat of a passing game. None.

[Blue42]

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Rennie did get us to 2nd round of playoffs his senior year...and a buzz sawing by Montana.

To his credit, he greatly improved his throwing from jr to sr year.

But are we really going down that road again? Did we bring Davis in to re-run that old tape? I don't think so.

[Blue42]

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I watched the Jackrabbits beat Kansas yesterday.

Their QB...same guy who beat us in Dome last year...made some great throws in that game. Some ropes and some nice touch throws.

That's what won it for them down the stretch. He stiod and the pocket and took some shots to deliver.

Very similar to what Montana's QB did to NDSU.

Gotta have somebidy who can deal back there to win at this level.

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If Rennie ball is what the goal of the new OC is then last night isn't far away from his dream.

It doesn't win in November. Rennie lost to basically Drake in a home playoff game.

Dual threat is a farce. They have no threat of a passing game. None.

Yeah, that QB that completed 58% of his passes and accounted for nearly 300 yards of offense per game, and won 2 conference titles is complete trash

[panther1]

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UNI has always won with a pocket passer, and after Grace we have gone with 'runners'. If we want to win in the future, it's time to give the keys to Dunne and try to keep him alive until we have a line to provide protection. SK with an adequate line would have been that guy.

Do we have an oline coach yet? Any young guys that can block on the bench?

[Gocats15]

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Exactly.

UNI won because of DJ, and inspire of Carnes. Why he continues to get praised as some messiah of the team last season for completing 45% of his passes amd handing the ball to DJ blows my mind. He didn't beat NDSU. He was 9-30 that game. The fact they beat NDSU was 100% DJ and the defense.

ISU in the dome? Kilfoy had a pick 6 to make it a 2 score game late, and then another pick to seal it, DJ had a 98 yd KO return for a TD, to go along with TD runs of 18 and 31 yards, oh and don't forget the blocked punt for a TD. Carnes went 10-30 and threw 2 picks, and fumbled the opening snap setting up an ISU td just 12 seconds into the game. His running ability people raved about? 5 carries for about 7 yards.

At least Bailey isn't afraid to use his legs like Carnes was, I guess.

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I'm not saying Carnes was the sole reason we won those games. I'm just pointing out that Kollmorgen has a sub .500 record as a starter, whereas Carnes lost 1 game in his starts, including 3 games over top 10 teams. I know the defense was what kind of won us those games, but why wasn't the defense winning those games for kollmorgen? We don't know how Bailey is in a quick passing offense, as we never called those plays for him. The offense was called entirely different when Kollmorgen and Dunne were on the field. Instead, we continuously called screens and deep balls when Bailey was out there, which just were not working.

[panther1]

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I'm not saying Carnes was the sole reason we won those games. I'm just pointing out that Kollmorgen has a sub .500 record as a starter, whereas Carnes lost 1 game in his starts, including 3 games over top 10 teams. I know the defense was what kind of won us those games, but why wasn't the defense winning those games for kollmorgen? We don't know how Bailey is in a quick passing offense, as we never called those plays for him. The offense was called entirely different when Kollmorgen and Dunne were on the field. Instead, we continuously called screens and deep balls when Bailey was out there, which just were not working.

So either we have an inept passing QB or inept OC or both.

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Why didn't the defense win those games? They did everything they could to win those games. Turns out not using the best offensive weapon in the nation will have a large negative impact on a team. DJ averages 25 carries in those losses and we probably only lose to Iowa and ISUblue, on that trick play, of that stretch

[Gocats15]

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UNI has always won with a pocket passer, and after Grace we have gone with 'runners'. If we want to win in the future, it's time to give the keys to Dunne and try to keep him alive until we have a line to provide protection. SK with an adequate line would have been that guy.

Do we have an oline coach yet? Any young guys that can block on the bench?

We won with a pocket passer when we had a good OL as well. Lately our OL has been awful, and it has shown with our QB play. Kollmorgen wasn't a runner, and he was the QB for the majority of the last 3 years, and look how the team did when he was there. No QB could succeed with our combination of poor playcalling and poor line play. While our offense hasn't always looked pretty, we've at least won games with runners (Rennie made the playoffs both years, Carnes made it in his half season). Kollmorgen never really brought us close. We need the quick passing offense to offset our lack of pass protection, but we've been trying too many long developing passes on early downs, resulting in sacks.