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  • #76
    Re: Quarterback 2015??

    Originally posted by claw View Post
    Yeah, that QB that completed 58% of his passes and accounted for nearly 300 yards of offense per game, and won 2 conference titles is complete trash
    First Bailey could not hold Rennie's jock and never will.

    Second Rennie lost a home playoff game to non scholarship Lehigh. I was at that game, they needed a passer that day. It was awful.

    I remember when UNI had a vertical element to their passing games and made deep playoff runs while piling up lots of points.

    The last six years has been awful in my opinion. Some of the best defense I have ever seen at UNI pared with a rinky dink garbage offense that good teams can easily defend.

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    • #77
      The problem is that there are really only a handful of really good dual threat qbs, and they don't come to UNI. If you want to change to a running qb, might as well change to the option.

      From my NSA monitored nexus 5

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      • #78
        Re: Quarterback 2015??

        Ever since he got beat by Armanti Edwards, Farley has been obsessed with the running-throwing combination. Problem is that Edwards was a once in a lifetime guy at the FCS level.

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        • #79
          There were 3-4 other players off that ASU team that made it to the nfl for varying amounts of time.

          From my NSA monitored nexus 5

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          • #80
            Re: Quarterback 2015??

            Originally posted by BCPanther View Post
            Ever since he got beat by Armanti Edwards, Farley has been obsessed with the running-throwing combination. Problem is that Edwards was a once in a lifetime guy at the FCS level.
            UNI never got beat by Armanti Edwards to my recollection.

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            • #81
              Re: Quarterback 2015??

              Originally posted by claw View Post
              Why didn't the defense win those games? They did everything they could to win those games. Turns out not using the best offensive weapon in the nation will have a large negative impact on a team. DJ averages 25 carries in those losses and we probably only lose to Iowa and ISUblue, on that trick play, of that stretch
              I'm not ready to throw in the towel for the season based on one game, as disappointing and non-competitive as it was, but I do think the common denominator for UNI not reaching their full potential has been the coaching; whether from the OC side of it (Salmon and Mario) and even going up to the top (Farley). I didn't see or listen to the game last night, but it sounds like we were just flat out-executed and didn't come ready to play, which is going to lose a ballgame for an FCS team against an FBS team every time (even one as historically poor as Iowa State).

              If we finish under .500 this season, will Dannen finally pull the plug on Farley and the coaching staff?

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              • #82
                Re: Quarterback 2015??

                Wasn't the ISU defense out there with our guys? Give the Birds some props. Home record crowd in their new (expanded stadium), PR coaching for his professional life, UNI graduated 26 seniors last year not to mention two of those making NFL rosters, a new OC and how many new coaches?

                Not what we wanted, but ISU played well on special teams and defense and wore down our defense because of our mistakes. Their crowd was into it and did their part. It was a bad game--learn and let's go on to the next game.

                Our guys are professional coaches and we have qualified scholarship athletes--we'll figure it out! Our coaches watched the same game that we did and they are hard at work to correct all the mistakes we made.

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                • #83
                  Re: Quarterback 2015??

                  Stop being rationale. I'm in the midst of a 24 hour melt down / self - therapy session.
                  Winning is more fun than losing.

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                  • #84
                    Re: Quarterback 2015??

                    Originally posted by claw View Post
                    Yeah, that QB that completed 58% of his passes and accounted for nearly 300 yards of offense per game, and won 2 conference titles is complete trash
                    you really don't get it...do you? UNI won in spite of him. They won due to a phenomenal defense, special teams & skill players around him. Great o-line, etc. The lack of a QB that can make the 3rd down throws is what killed us back then & what is killing us now. Again, stats are misleading. The running yards he got would have been the tailback if it wasn't him. 300 yards of offense per game these days is not really that much of a juggernaut.

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                    • #85
                      Re: Quarterback 2015??

                      Originally posted by panther1 View Post
                      UNI never got beat by Armanti Edwards to my recollection.
                      Should have clarified better. After seeing Appy win 3 in a row that way and at Michigan...

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                      • #86
                        The needless trashing of Tirrell Rennie is BS. That guy was here for two seasons, won TWO conf titles, played hard, played hurt, didn't turn the ball over & was an offensive machine.
                        UNI FIGHT

                        Originally posted by 9YRPLAN
                        iowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck

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                        • #87
                          Re: Quarterback 2015??

                          Originally posted by Mudrafan View Post
                          you really don't get it...do you? UNI won in spite of him. They won due to a phenomenal defense, special teams & skill players around him. Great o-line, etc. The lack of a QB that can make the 3rd down throws is what killed us back then & what is killing us now. Again, stats are misleading. The running yards he got would have been the tailback if it wasn't him. 300 yards of offense per game these days is not really that much of a juggernaut.
                          We won in spite of him? Then how do you explain Kollmorgen losing more than half his games as a starter? With the same team that we won with in spite of having a running QB? According to this logic, we can't blame losses on Kollmorgen and can't blame wins on Rennie/Carnes? If I recall, we made the playoffs each season with a running QB. We missed them each year with a "passer". Instead of blaming Bailey, blame the mismanaged playcalling and terrible blocking. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Kollmorgens completion percentage was much higher than Carnes last year. Take away Carnes' two playoff games where he was playing on one leg and it was about even. The running element helps when we have no blocking to speak of. If I recall last year against Iowa, Kollmorgen was under 50% passing, and most of his completions/yardage were on 5 yard throws to Johnson where he took it 50 yards. The bashing of running QBs needs to stop, instead, we need to figure out why on earth we can't block. We had no run game to speak of last night. Huggins had 1 yard, Miller had 3, and Smith had 37, most of which came on one play.

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                          • #88
                            Need to switch to Dunne and have Bailey lineup next to him in a package.

                            I am convinced he is the future, as long as farley lets Davis have a free hand.

                            From my NSA monitored nexus 5

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                            • #89
                              Dunne is CLEARLY the best QB on the roster and the coaching staff didn't have the sack to start a freshman.
                              UNI FIGHT

                              Originally posted by 9YRPLAN
                              iowa sucks, fran sucks, their schedule sucks, iowa fans suck

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                              • #90
                                Re: Quarterback 2015??

                                Being a "dual threat" qb will always hamper your performance of either running or passing. If you are a true passing qb you will never be a good running qb because you will always be looking to throw. If you are a good running qb you will never amount to much as a passing qb because you will always be looking to run. Ultimately you will never be as good of a qb if you don't commit to one or the other....

                                Dual Threat QB = Dual Fan
                                Illinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:

                                "White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."

                                You stay classy Redbirds.

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