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Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

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  • #16
    Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

    iowa state sucks. ndsu saw that up front last year.

    however, losing David Johnson & Xavier Williams is a killer, no smack at all, but those 2 were power 5 stars playing for UNI last year.
    UNI has #2 Dome in MVFC, but Ice Lounge rocks! BisoNation.com

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    • #17
      Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

      Originally posted by Newsbreaker View Post
      ISU isn't any good. Whether we're good enough to do some damage in the Valley remains to be seen, particularly considering no one else in the league save for SDSU has looked particularly good.

      The score of this game is irrelevant. Short field plus a hot night against a deeper team is going to lead to a score that is uglier than deserved. The defense did a nice job in several key spots, and truthfully if the offense had found any rhythm in the first half, UNI would've looked like the better team.

      Saturday is a really tough spot, but hopefully with one guy getting the majority of snaps with the first unit this week, the offense should look better.
      This.

      Ten characters.

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      • #18
        Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

        Originally posted by SteinPizza View Post
        The D Line wasn't bad at all, they got pressure on Richardson, and none of the ISU RBs really did anything. They got burnt by a horribly executed punting game, and way too many short posssessions by the offense on a hot, humid night. To lay some blame on the D Line is misguided.

        Also, the O line was better at pass blocking than you think. How else else do you think Bailey has the time to overthrow open receivers on routes being run 30 yards downfield?
        They did occasionally get some pressure, but they were also facing an injury plagued offensive line. I'm pretty sure two starters and one second string guy were out of the game due to injury including the starting center. I expected better considering the competition. We will face better offensive lines this year against NDSU and SDSU.

        ISU recorded SIX sacks. Last year the Cyclones barley averaged one sack per game. And if Bailey wasn't such an illusive scrambler, the number might have easily reached double digits. ISU also had 13 tackles for a loss totaling 54 yards. This is almost triple their per game average from last year.
        Originally posted by TH1974
        This guy was all-UNI, and wanted to show it by pretending to play a non-existant musical instrument in public.

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        • #19
          Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

          Originally posted by Kyle View Post
          They did occasionally get some pressure, but they were also facing an injury plagued offensive line. I'm pretty sure two starters and one second string guy were out of the game due to injury including the starting center. I expected better considering the competition. We will face better offensive lines this year against NDSU and SDSU.

          ISU recorded SIX sacks. Last year the Cyclones barley averaged one sack per game. And if Bailey wasn't such an illusive scrambler, the number might have easily reached double digits. ISU also had 13 tackles for a loss totaling 54 yards. This is almost triple their per game average from last year.
          I'll stand by my comments. The DL will be fine. The only thing I'm concerned with there is lack of playing time by Ronelle McNiel. If healthy, he's a playmaker. Him not getting in until the second half is a concern going forward.

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          • #20
            Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

            Our special teams problems aren't there because of personnel but rather schemes. All of our specialists are returning starters that have had marginally successful, to greatly successful careers in purple. Special teams in Cedar Falls, and several schools for that matter, have been over coached for years. Rather than letting your specialists do what they do best, it gets over thought. Example: One several occasions our right footed Kick-off man, and right footed punter were asked to kick the ball the left rather than just putting a ball down the middle with decent hang time and distance. For a punter this results in low line drive punts because you can't allow the ball to roll off the right side of your foot on your follow through the way you want to. For Kick-offs this all to often a risk because if you pull the ball just slightly it will go out of bounce creating terrible starting field position as we saw with the second halfs opening kick off. UNI isn't the only school plagued by over coached special teams. It happens all over the country. Coaches simply don't know the kicking game. They think about what is best for the ten other guys on the field rather than what their kicker / punter can actually perform.

            Just my two cents worth.
            Illinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:

            "White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."

            You stay classy Redbirds.

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            • #21
              Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

              Jegbomb....I know what you are trying to say....but our punter was horrible...I don't think an excuse can be made...when he did punt down the middle every kick was a low line drive...many...many...high school punters could have did a better job...this is D1 football...there is no excuse for the punting woes saturday...one bad punt yes...10....no

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              • #22
                Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

                i can easily admit there were some poor punts on Saturday, i'm sure our punter would too. Of the ten bad punts, I wouldn't put them all on him... i don't put schmadeke's kick off to start the second half on him either....

                Coverage has to be better than it was, if a ball is punted 45-50 yards, i don't care if it is on a rope, our coverage team has to do a better job of covering. The fact that we have 3 o-lineman and a long snapper that all run a plus 5.2 forty on our punt team is just as big of a problem as poor punts...
                Illinois State Fan at a St. Louis White Castle 3:45AM Saturday March 6th:

                "White Castle?" "more like Black Castle..."

                You stay classy Redbirds.

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                • #23
                  Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

                  UNI gave them a lot of chances due to poor special teams play. The defense wasn't that bad but the offense just never got going.

                  I don't think Iowa State is very good but I can honestly say Northern Iowa played about as bad as you could on offense and special teams and still was in it.
                  Victory for UNI!

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                  • #24
                    Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

                    Hey Dannen.....iowa st let us leave at halftime......62k....vs the 8k we will have sat....apparently they were not concerned with keeping their fans "safe"

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                    • #25
                      Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

                      Originally posted by Alum 99' View Post
                      Hey Dannen.....iowa st let us leave at halftime......62k....vs the 8k we will have sat....apparently they were not concerned with keeping their fans "safe"
                      YES!!

                      I literally feared for my life the entire second half.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

                        Originally posted by Alum 99' View Post
                        Hey Dannen.....iowa st let us leave at halftime......62k....vs the 8k we will have sat....apparently they were not concerned with keeping their fans "safe"
                        You couldn't pick a worse year to pull this stunt. If the first half plays out like it could the building will be empty in the second half with the Iowa Iowa state game starting.

                        If they start 1-4. 0-5 there is no reason to go much less sit in your seat to watch the second half.

                        Are they deliberately trying to kill football? If they are the plan is working perfectly.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

                          JP said beginning next year Ia.St. will no longer allow fans to leave at 1/2 time w/out paying to return for 2nd half...

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by run&blade View Post
                            You couldn't pick a worse year to pull this stunt. If the first half plays out like it could the building will be empty in the second half with the Iowa Iowa state game starting.

                            If they start 1-4. 0-5 there is no reason to go much less sit in your seat to watch the second half.

                            Are they deliberately trying to kill football? If they are the plan is working perfectly.
                            Good news is that 99% of the people leaving at halftime won't want to try to reenter

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                            • #29
                              Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

                              Originally posted by run&blade View Post
                              You couldn't pick a worse year to pull this stunt. If the first half plays out like it could the building will be empty in the second half with the Iowa Iowa state game starting.

                              If they start 1-4. 0-5 there is no reason to go much less sit in your seat to watch the second half.

                              Are they deliberately trying to kill football? If they are the plan is working perfectly.
                              Iowa State had been doing the re-entry policy for as long as I can remember.
                              Running outside to chug a beer or two is always nice.

                              And like somebody else already mentioned, this will be the last year of it.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Quick Question? Was UNI very bad or is ISU that good?

                                Originally posted by Panther'73 View Post
                                JP said beginning next year Ia.St. will no longer allow fans to leave at 1/2 time w/out paying to return for 2nd half...
                                This is entirely true. Virtually no one allows this anymore, and Pollard stated Saturday this will be the last year Iowa State allows it as well.
                                "...the Northern Iowa men's basketball team reached the ultimate highs before hitting a devastating low. Unexpected success, followed by unimaginable failure. And they owned it -- all of it -- for the world to see. Like men. Like leaders. Like champions -- in a way no tournament bracket could ever define."

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