Joe Davis gone?

[06panther10]

Most of what we know or have heard about Farley is very negative. Most former players don't have great things to say about him. I hope he did not drive Davis out. Best of luck to him at his next stop.

One of the great, most successful coaches in the history of the school. So tired of hearing this crap.

[Panther-at-Arms]

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One of the great, most successful coaches in the history of the school. So tired of hearing this crap.

Not commenting one way or the other, because I have no personal knowledge about Farley, but it IS possible to have a very successful program and still be a dick. The two are not mutually exclusive.

[GonzoCat]

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You have to wonder though about someone who comes on here and makes their first post to say how great Davis was and how bad Farley is, claiming to have been off the grid for a while. Me thinks it's a Davis family member.

[Panther-at-Arms]

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I did think it was odd, yes.

[Panther-at-Arms]

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Of course, if I was his family, I might be feeling pretty jilted, too. The whole deal was weird and unfortunate.

[SteinPizza]

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Not commenting one way or the other, because I have no personal knowledge about Farley, but it IS possible to have a very successful program and still be a dick. The two are not mutually exclusive.

It's extremely possible. Just because he's a UNI grad, a member of the Cedar Valley community, a member of your church, whatever, doesn't make him or anyone else a good guy. Nothing against Farley specifically, but coaches in general are usually huge type A control freaks who rub many "normal" people the wrong way. Some may be "sick of hearing that crap", but success in that profession and being a nice guy DON'T necessarily go hand in hand. Same with the corporate world. Corporate execs who rule by fear aren't uncommon, and coaching is no different.

[wretched]

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I was fairly saddened and was hurting for UNI basketball with how they exited this years NCAA basketball tournament. I am not nearly as invested in UNI basketball as football but still watched several games this year and knew the players. Not trying to stir the pot (if I was I would have made this its own thread) but wondering why the different responses to Farley and Jacobson from the people who care the most about UNI athletics. Tough to judge but they have basically accomplished the same thing with about the same resources in that they have both made/continue to make UNI relevant on a national level for their sports. Yet one coach gets Fire ****** threads and the other gets bouquets of well wishes after their most devasting losses. Is it b/c football elicitis a more emotional response? Is it b/c the normal everyday person thinks they know as much as the head coach of a football program? Is it a personality thing with specifically Jacobson and Farley or is it just their is water over the proverbial damn with Farley b/c he has coached for about as twice as long as Jacobson. For the record I am not a basketball guy, but didn't really think their was much else Jacobson could have done to stop the collapse. He is obviously a good coach who gives his team a chance for national relevance every year. Of course I think the same thing about Farley

[Mudrafan]

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Not commenting one way or the other, because I have no personal knowledge about Farley, but it IS possible to have a very successful program and still be a dick. The two are not mutually exclusive.

what you are failing to realize is that you don't put it in a public forum.

[panther-state]

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I'm not sure if football and basketball have accomplished similar things. In a way UNI ended the bball season as one of the top 25-30 programs in the country. Football is one of we best FCS programs, but as much as we hate demeaning what the FCS is, we were probably not one of the best 25-30 football programs.

I'm stopping the conversation there because I'm afraid this will wake up Ban Basketball

[95UNIGRAD]

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"I'm not sure if football and basketball have accomplished similar things. In a way UNI ended the bball season as one of the top 25-30 programs in the country. Football is one of we best FCS programs, but as much as we hate demeaning what the FCS is, we were probably not one of the best 25-30 football programs."

I think that's the reason right there. Football competes in a small subdivision while basketball competes against everyone.

[Blue42]

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Maybe that's part of it.

But the shredding we took in the Ill State game to end the 2014 season, followed up by the very chaotic start to the 2015 season, is what brought a lot of the criticism of MF.

As well, Jake has bent over backward to become a presence around campus and on social media. He is consistently and publicly supportive of other athletic programs and other parts of the university. He's become the face of the athletic dept in my opinion.

[SteinPizza]

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I think that's the reason right there. Football competes in a small subdivision while basketball competes against everyone.

This is correct. There's a huge difference between being a good FCS football program, and being a good mid major men's basketball program. The only way you're even remotely a national name playing FCS football is to do what NDSU has done, win four or five titles in a row. Even then, the average fan will know you're good, but won't know much else about you. Also, that run is bound to end, and whatever minor national name you've made for yourself will fade. Not trying to sound anti-FCS, since there's definitely a place for it in the sport. But, the comparison between FCS football and D1 men's basketball isn't flattering for FCS.

[Born-a-Panther]

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As well, Jake has bent over backward to become a presence around campus and on social media. He is consistently and publicly supportive of other athletic programs and other parts of the university. He's become the face of the athletic dept in my opinion.

Is Farley as good on social media as Jake? No. Does he post from time to time? Yes. Is Farley a huge ambassador for Northern Iowa? Absolutely. I have been in his presence when he's been emotional and/or ecstatic for what's going on in our athletic department, and you will not find anyone with a bigger Panther heart.

I know there are former players out there that will talk poorly of him. I also know several that keep coming back to help when asked to or called upon. And I've also talked to others that say when they were here, they weren't his biggest fans - but looking back now with perspective - they realize what he did was best for them and that it prepared them for life after football.

[CincyPanther88]

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I know there are former players out there that will talk poorly of him. I also know several that keep coming back to help when asked to or called upon. And I've also talked to others that say when they were here, they weren't his biggest fans - but looking back now with perspective - they realize what he did was best for them and that it prepared them for life after football.

I think this could be said about any coach. No matter how engaging or charming one is, there is always going to be someone who resents them. Maybe it's because they didn't play as much as they wanted or maybe it was a personality clash. It's not uncommon to hear former players - not just at UNI - say their longtime successful coach was a real SOB.

[Panther-at-Arms]

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what you are failing to realize is that you don't put it in a public forum.

I'm not failing to realize anything. As I clearly said, I'm simply commenting on the assertion that you can't have a successful program and be a jerk at the same time. That's it.