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  • #1

    Former ISUers

    6' 6" receiver D'vario Montgomery dismissed. Yes please, unless dismissed for a felony...

    Joshua Thomas is a young promising running back transferring from ISU as well.

    I know we like to think we're on equal footing or above ISU but a 6' 6" receiver would be fantastic next season...
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  • #2
    Re: Former ISUers

    I've been speculating since UNI told Tolu Oginrunde that they didn't have a scholarship for him that perhaps they have a transfer RB waiting in the wings.

    Pure speculation on my part.
    Winning is more fun than losing.

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    • #3
      Re: Former ISUers

      Montgomery and Thomas would be great additions to any team. A little disappointed to see them go, especially the RB Thomas.

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      • #4
        Re: Former ISUers

        Originally posted by panther1 View Post
        6' 6" receiver D'vario Montgomery dismissed. Yes please, unless dismissed for a felony...

        Joshua Thomas is a young promising running back transferring from ISU as well.

        I know we like to think we're on equal footing or above ISU but a 6' 6" receiver would be fantastic next season...
        Generally we have the talent to at least compete with Iowa State, if not win. But, face it, that's a Big 12 team. There's a bunch of those guys every year who could play big at the FCS level.

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        • #5
          Re: Former ISUers

          Originally posted by SteinPizza View Post
          Generally we have the talent to at least compete with Iowa State, if not win. But, face it, that's a Big 12 team. There's a bunch of those guys every year who could play big at the FCS level.
          This is where I think David Johnson and Carson wentz(potentially) will help the FCS immensely. DJ's popularity shows that if you go to a P5 and aren't a superstar you can get overlooked, where as you come to the FCS and are a star here may not get you round one, but round two or three and can be a contributor in the NFL
          Oh, and let me make this perfectly clear to you people: you go to UNI, NOT IOWA. The Hawkeyes and their fans do not give a crap if you remain "true to them" or some stupid self-fulfulling bullcrap like that.-OTP


          What i say are my opinions and mine alone, and not that of anyone associated with me.

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          • #6
            Re: Former ISUers

            Originally posted by pantherclaw View Post
            This is where I think David Johnson and Carson wentz(potentially) will help the FCS immensely. DJ's popularity shows that if you go to a P5 and aren't a superstar you can get overlooked, where as you come to the FCS and are a star here may not get you round one, but round two or three and can be a contributor in the NFL
            That's been true for years. The top rated recruits will always go to the P5 schools. Guys always want to play at the highest level they can, with the highest recognized program that their (initially scouted) ability allows.

            DJ and Wentz won't change the above. The FCS schools will always have to look for slip through the cracks, or developmental, type guys who possibly could rise to that level if a bunch of variables come together correctly. Nothing wrong with that, and it can happen, since football recruiting and talent scouting is a very inexact science.

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by SteinPizza View Post
              That's been true for years. The top rated recruits will always go to the P5 schools. Guys always want to play at the highest level they can, with the highest recognized program that their (initially scouted) ability allows.

              DJ and Wentz won't change the above. The FCS schools will always have to look for slip through the cracks, or developmental, type guys who possibly could rise to that level if a bunch of variables come together correctly. Nothing wrong with that, and it can happen, since football recruiting and talent scouting is a very inexact science.
              Exactly. DJ would have been a star at any college.
              "I think they're very good," Farley said of the preseason top 25 Hawkeyes. "But so are we."

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              • #8
                Re: Former ISUers

                Originally posted by ubuntuCAT View Post
                Exactly. DJ would have been a star at any college.
                Agreed. Same with Wentz. If you're thought of that highly by NFL scouts, then by definition you'd blow up any college league you played in. The only way you wouldn't is if the player is in a talent logjam of NFL prospects at his position. That's not a problem most Big 10 teams face, but it happens in the SEC and upper level ACC, PAC 12, and Big 12 teams.

                Bottom line, there's no such thing as a mediocre college player playing in the NFL. There are always going to be boneheaded college level coaches who don't realize what they have and utilize it correctly.

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                • #9
                  Re: Former ISUers

                  Except that DJ was asked to play a totally different position if he had gone to Iowa

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                  • #10
                    Re: Former ISUers

                    Originally posted by panther-state View Post
                    Except that DJ was asked to play a totally different position if he had gone to Iowa
                    Thank god Iowa can't evaluate NFL caliber RB talent.
                    Winning is more fun than losing.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Former ISUers

                      Originally posted by panther1 View Post
                      6' 6" receiver D'vario Montgomery dismissed. Yes please, unless dismissed for a felony...

                      Joshua Thomas is a young promising running back transferring from ISU as well.

                      I know we like to think we're on equal footing or above ISU but a 6' 6" receiver would be fantastic next season...

                      Montgomery's performance dropped off last year. He was at his best two years ago.

                      Comments on CF lead me to believe that both Montgomery and Thomas might prefer to play for a school in "Colorado."

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                      • #12
                        Re: Former ISUers

                        Originally posted by panther-state View Post
                        Except that DJ was asked to play a totally different position if he had gone to Iowa
                        Hence my comment on college level coaches not knowing how best to utilize what they have, or might have. Don't mean to be too harsh, since projecting high level talent in football can be a real crap shoot. It's easier to do in basketball, but even then your projections are not close to full proof.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Former ISUers

                          Originally posted by SteinPizza View Post
                          Hence my comment on college level coaches not knowing how best to utilize what they have, or might have. Don't mean to be too harsh, since projecting high level talent in football can be a real crap shoot. It's easier to do in basketball, but even then your projections are not close to full proof.
                          A good example of a guy who knew what he was doing was Lou Holtz in his short stint at Minnesota. He took some very average talent and by getting them in their best positions to succeed he made them instantly better. He might be a goofball but he could sure coach when he was younger. Another random thought but Mn. wanted to make Marion Barber III a DB. The Dallas Cowboys are glad they came to their senses. Third random thought closer to (UNI) home, Barber was rather slight in HS and really built himself up to be a power runner in the NFL. Given DJ's obvious hard work in the weightroom, how awsome can he become now that football is his full time job!

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